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To: The Philosopher who wrote (37198)5/9/1999 8:51:00 AM
From: Edwarda  Respond to of 108807
 
Chris, re The Aeneid, does it have to be in the original Latin? <VBG>



To: The Philosopher who wrote (37198)5/9/1999 9:47:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Chuzzlewit MUST think with his mind -- it is the only tool Man has to reason. Thinking with "the soul" means nothing, as there is not one shred of evidence that a "soul" exists. In fact, the illusive concept of a soul is a construct of the human mind.

Chuzzlewit is correct in reasoning with the mind. I suggest you sit at Chuzzle's virtual feet and take prodigious notes...

FT



To: The Philosopher who wrote (37198)5/9/1999 11:20:00 AM
From: Chuzzlewit  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 108807
 
Christopher, I think with my soul all the time. I love virtually all of the books I excised from the list. But they are fiction. They may be wonderful moving stories of the time, but certainly have little impact on the course of history. Dickens is my favorite author. But in terms of importance he cannot hold a candle to Freud. Why? Because Freud exerted a tremendous influence influence on the direction of psychology; his influence permeated the arts as well. It profoundly affected the way we think about ourselves. Dickens, on the other hand, created a world that was largely romanticized. Look at his cardboard view of women. Sex was a subject that he did not even hint at. Dickens created myths. Dickens reflected a false image of who some of us were in a small swatch of time in a small country. One could argue that Dickens explored human psychology, but I think that such comments are facile because they confuse romanticized ad hoccreations for truth, or the search for truth.

I think you would be hard pressed to find a person more moved by music than me. But is there a "truth" in music? I don't think so. I love Indian food, and frequent an East Indian restaurant where Indian music is constantly played -- some of it quite old ("classics" in the words of the owner) and some of it is popular. I don't understand it. It is alien to my ears. It is not universal. I imagine that children growing up in India or China might find Mozart alien. But the thinkers that I talked about earlier, like Freud and Newton and Einstein -- these are people that talked about universal truths, and that is the difference.

Christopher, my list was not aimed at finding those authors that enrich our lives - that would be a very long and interesting and personal list. It was aimed at finding a list of authors, works, and ideas that every educated person should read or be familiar with.

I think I have to revise my list to include Aristotle and Plato, not because they were right, but because they exerted such a tremendous influence on subsequent thinkers.

TTFN,
CTC