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To: Don Martini who wrote (25380)	5/9/1999 9:49:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 39621

Don, Why do you think that you have to fully understand the trinity before you will ever submit to believing in it? Have you ever seen God? No, because he is spirit and physical eyes can't behold the infinite. Those who have been born again have the seal and witness of the Holy Spirit, and this same Holy Spirit testifies that all flesh is corrupt but there is hope for renewal by faith in the blood of Jesus. The Spirit causes us to focus on Christ. When Christ walked among men he told them to look to God. When God spoke on the mount of transfiguration he told the disciples to listen to Jesus. In each case the speaker never drew attention to themself. Since we know God is Holy and won't be usurped by anyone we must conclude that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are one in the same. Three manifestations yet only one...ONLY GOD COULD ACHIEVE SUCH A TASK. Would you dare suggest such things are impossible or will you humble yourself and say it just may be so? I certainly hope you never succumbed to the lie that the Holy Spirit is only a force, because that is blasphemy. And yet if you were to confess him as God (Which he is)you would be going against the teachings of the Watchtower. Chris

To: Don Martini who wrote (25380)	5/10/1999 10:00:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Don't put down good works. They no doubt are ineffectual for salvation, but they justify man as no mere act of faith ever can. Your works make you a gift to man even if (as many here believe) you are a heretic. I say that had Jesus to choose one man from this crowd of back-biting fantasists to save you would be picked. It's not much to be proud of, for there is hardly one here worth the rope to hang him, but it's far better than being one of them.