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To: Jon Tara who wrote (10713)5/11/1999 3:12:00 AM
From: Dan Duchardt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14162
 
Jon,

I believe there is in fact a statutory prohibition against using margin in an IRA, and it makes sense. What it boils down to is that you cannot have a margin account for an IRA because you are prohibited from adding unlimited amounts of cash to the account, and that could leave you unable to cover a margin call. It's OK for your IRA to make unlimited amounts of money, or to lose it all, but the annual contribution limit makes it impossible for you to replenish the account if you lose.

We all know that shorting a stock exposes you to a potentially unbounded loss, so in a margin account we are required to maintain a buffer of equity (that can increase without limit) against a run up in the stock price. We also know that writing a put is very different from selling stock short, with a well defined limit (the strike price) on the amount it will cost you to fulfill your obligation if the option is ever exercised. So if you start out with enough money in the account to meet this obligation, it is impossible to generate a "margin call" and therefore it does not violate the apparent intent of the IRA margin restriction.

OOPs. I had missed Greg's earlier reply with the name of a broker. I'll have to check it out.

Dan



To: Jon Tara who wrote (10713)5/11/1999 10:22:00 PM
From: Tom K.  Respond to of 14162
 
an options account is not by definition a margin account.

Jon, of course it can't be a margin account... I use my IRA account... my error, sorry. I think I got confused because an options account is a margin account but that doesn't preclude you from trading options in a cash account.... hence my IRA trades. I'll try to stick to the trades and not to the definitions.

Tom