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To: Richard Babusek who wrote (2756)	5/11/1999 1:23:00 AM
From: Richard Babusek	Respond to of 13056

I've have this vision, I wonder what any of you think about it. I've thought about removing my mailbox. You know, just declining the service. I wonder what would happen? I bet it wouldn't be pretty!! Ricardo

To: Richard Babusek who wrote (2756)	5/11/1999 12:51:00 PM
From: Dave Reed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13056

Thank you for your clarification of the confrontation in John 8.1-11. I found your information to be valuable and interesting. I've never really understood how some of Jesus' statements got him out of the Pharisees' traps because I don't have sufficient background. However, I've always viewed the whole chapter of John 8, where Jesus is battling the Pharisees, as trying to teach a lesson beyond just that Jesus was very sharp and a good lawyer. I may have been reading more into the "he who is without sin" than was there although it seems to be a fairly common interpretation. I agree that the other two citations were for the same event. In the message you originally responded to, I was talking about whether or not there should be an extra retributive component in our justice system that goes beyond just attempting to restore the balance and protect society. In my opinion, any justification of a retributive component of justice would stem from a sense of moral outrage. I think the other teaching in the first two citations is saying to mind-your-own-business on that topic. I don't read them as talking only about hypocrisy, but I can see how you could come to a different conclusion. No more theological debate! I'd be out of my league anyway. By the way, I used the Christianity example to try to make my argument more relevant to you, not to dismiss Christianity as a moral vehicle. I'm not arguing against morality, I'm making a very specific argument about retributive justice. I'm sorry for my comment about God not handing out justice in this world. That was a throw-away remark and I retract it. Dave