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To: donald martin who wrote (33746)5/12/1999 4:38:00 PM
From: Gord Bolton  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116767
 
Barrick does not lose on possible future price increases in gold.
They, like anybody else, could simply buy back their forward sale in the event that the price started rising significantly.
And of course if the POG goes up their economic reserves and production would probably increase greatly.
THe forward sale simply locks in the price and insures them against a drop in POG. It also puts cash in their hands today by using their gold in the ground as security.
Seems like an excellent deal. And it has worked well for them.



To: donald martin who wrote (33746)5/12/1999 4:49:00 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116767
 

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Buyer Beware When Purchasing Gold, Silver Coins
12.09 p.m. ET (1609 GMT) May 11, 1999

<FN_ARTICLEWASHINGTON — Consumers planning top purchase gold or silver coins to protect themselves against possible Year 2000 problems should watch out for possible investment scams, groups representing coin and paper money experts are warning.
Some con artists have tried to persuade people to take their money out of banks to avoid computer foulups because of the millennial date change, then turn it over to be invested with them in gold, silver, small-company stocks or other assets.
The trade groups said Monday that potential investors in coins should be aware of three key factors: the cost per ounce of precious metals, the delivery time for the coins and the difference between bullion value and collector value.
The value of bullion coins fluctuates in tandem with gold or silver prices, while collector coins have an additional value based on historical supply and demand.
"If you don't know your bullion coins, you'd better know your bullion coin dealer," said Richard Schwary, president of the Professional Numismatists Guild.
He noted that guild members, who study and collect coins, must follow a code of ethics and agree to binding arbitration to settle disputes with customers.
The group issued an advisory along with the American Numismatic Association and the Industry Council for Tangible Assets, whose members are experts on paper money.
Schwary said American Eagle coins generally have higher retail prices than comparable Canadian Maple Leaf coins or South African Krugerrands.
He said some older U.S. coins may be readily available in circulated condition for a "modest" premium over the value of their gold or silver content, but the same coins in pristine condition may have a significantly higher value, sometimes thousands of dollars more.
If immediate delivery of coins is not possible once you have bought them, Schwary advised, get in writing from the seller specific confirmation of the delivery date.
Recent increased demand has caused the U.S. Mint and its distributors to have delays in delivering coins, and retail buyers may encounter delays of several weeks or more, he said.
Consumers can get a free copy of the Professional Numismatists Guild's membership directory and a guide titled What You Should Know Before You Buy Rare Coins by writing to Robert Brueggeman, PNG executive director, 3950 Concordia Lane, Fallbrook, Calif. 92028. The phone number is 760-728-1300 and the e-mail address is info@pngdealers.com. The group's Web site is at www.pngdealers.com.
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Well, well, look who else has been bought off.
rh



To: donald martin who wrote (33746)5/12/1999 5:14:00 PM
From: John Hunt  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116767
 
<< They don't profit at all from more falling gold prices >>

Hi Donald,

Then how do you explain the fact that their 'premium' profits were four to five times higher in the last two years of falling gold prices than they were in earlier years? ... I don't think their production grew by four times.

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I think they are speculating on falling gold prices by selling forward MORE than they produce in a given year and buying back what they can not deliver. (I think I have heard that they have some clauses in their contracts that allow them to delay settlement into future years, but I don't know any details)

You and I look at profit (or unrealized profit) somewhat differently ... probably the difference between an economist and someone with a small business background (computers) that was forced to revalue his inventory every month.

Have a great evening.

:-))

John

PS - Thanks for taking the time to respond.