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To: Jamey who wrote (25432)	5/13/1999 7:41:00 AM
From: Sam Ferguson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

<<Is it more important to convince others of your beliefs than to just spend quality time reflecting on God's pure grace.>> Of course not James. First I do not care about beliefs. Mine or yours. I do care about knowledge for knowledge is that narrow path that most fail to choose. It is the road to salvation. If you will examine yourself and beliefs you will find they differ from thousands of other people. Your belief in Paul's teaching gets much argument from others but not a peep from me. You are one of the few I have come across who has discovered and been able to separate Paul's truth from Peter's. My purpose in the posts in the last few days was to give you some more answers to why all of Paul's writing wasn't consistent or least hard to reconcile where Peter was challenged. I am sure you do not agree with all I posted. But James be honest with yourself and investigate this just as carefully as you have separated Grace. Do not accept any part that doesn't ring true to you. On the other hand don't toss out the baby with the bath water. Where we have problems in beliefs is you conceive God as a human with ultimate power. I conceive God as all that exists both physical and spiritual. I conceive our body is just another animal and God has given us a mind or an embryo of his mind to refine us to become perfect in harmony with our creator. Using our mind to reason is how we refine the animal in us to walk in Godly ways instead of instinct or physical desires. God dwells in us! Paul says,"Know ye not you are God's temple?" The new covenant tells us how we will be enlightened yet you and millions others read it without understanding what it says. Paul was enlightened in this manner on the road to Damascus. Remember? "I will write my laws upon their minds and in their hearts; and no man shall tell his brother who is God; for all men shall know me; and I will be to them a God and they will be to me a people." This was the only miracle Paul witnessed. Jesus did not physically rise from the grave. Remember Paul again. The corruptible cannot put on the incorruptible. James the law is we are all one. Anything I take from others I take from self. Anything I give others I give myself. Every action we take has a rippling effect on others.

To: Jamey who wrote (25432)	5/13/1999 10:48:00 AM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

James, An honest question for you..... Is it wrong(or a sign of a lack of faith) if one questions their chosen religion? What I mean by that, is do you thinkg God is displeased if one looks at all angles/aspects of their religion? I don't mean that you should look at changing or beliefs or you should look for reasons to lose faith. that is not what I am talking about. What I am talking about is things look and appear differently depending on the attitude or mind set that one has when exploring the subject. Given that, do you think god is displeased if one looks at their beliefs through a open-minded lens? If you were to examine things with a willingness to see things critically as well as positively? If that is wrong, why? Any subject cn not be fully examined and fully known unless it is examined from all angles. Any aspect not examined is an area of ignorance, that is common sense. Can faith be founded on a bedrock that is not fully examined? Is that what god truly wants? If so, why? I am not asking you this question to get you to think critically of your faith., far from it. It is just a question that I have always wondered about, and seemed relevant to the current conversation. Mark