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To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (56578)5/13/1999 12:19:00 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
Sarmad, the problem with software that was around 5+ years ago is the new products never seem to have generated the excitement that the old ones did. For example cisco is still running Oracle version 7.3 which is an old product... Oracle 8 has been out for years! Also there is the additional issue of the pricing models which are bad and no one knows how to improve on them really... "site licenses" which once a company buys it there is no residual revenue.

I said on another thread we used to knock IBM 5 years ago because they bundled everything in with hardware costs. Then when unix came along customers said, "why buy this ibm mainframe for 800K when I can get a unix box for 90k". The client server advocates exploited this about IBM pricing. Now I think perhaps the reason for pricing things that way was to avoid these issues we have in software now... software is a once in 8 year purchase and there is no way to spread it out.

I think I mentioned the new psft product looks a lot like vert to me btw



To: Sarmad Y. Hermiz who wrote (56578)5/13/1999 6:08:00 PM
From: Olu Emuleomo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164684
 
So is oracle's problem a leading indicator for the others ?

ORCL is a dog with fleas. IBM is a stud...

--Olu E.