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To: RealMuLan who wrote (8284)	5/13/1999 4:05:00 PM
From: MoneyBaggs	Respond to of 17770

Why there are so many briliant smart Chinese working for your National labs? ummm......because they wanted to get out of that rat hole China? Just a guess :)

To: RealMuLan who wrote (8284)	5/13/1999 4:19:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

Why there are so many briliant smart Chinese working for your National labs? More money and greater personal freedoms than they currently enjoy in the PRC?? I never said that Chinese people weren't brilliant. There are Americans of Chinese origin providing SUBSTANTIAL contributions to American society. But they are Americans, Yiwu. They hold US citizenship. That's why, when they betray the trust our nation gave them, in order to spy for a totalitarian gov't in Bejing, we become SO UPSET. It's like betraying your adopted family who took you in off the streets or from the orphanage. An American is not just Anglocentric. (at least not in my eyes). An American is the result of hundreds of years of intellectual thought and actions that ultimately culminated in a constitution guaranteeing the inalienable rights of each individual (inalienable meaning "god-given" or irrevocable). Someone mentioned how the world resented such an upstart culture like the US dictating terms as to the definition of human rights are. But we are only the most recent (and successful) example of a liberal thought process that began in ancient Greece and Rome. We can trace the very concept back to Greece, and constitutional republicanism to Rome. We trace individual freedoms to the Magna Carta and English revolution, our philosophy to John Locke and Thomas Hobbes and so many others throughout history. America, like it or not, is the kind of multi-ethnic society that one day this world will reflect. It has to be that way or we'll forever be embroiled in ethnic hatred and family feuds. Dwell upon that for awhile. And take that thought back with you to China where only ethnic Chinese have any dream of holding ultimate power. One of these days I hope to see this country advance to the extent that we'll see an Asian president, or a black president, or a female president. It may not happen soon, but I have little doubt that it will happen eventually. Regards, Ron