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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8286)	5/13/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: Yaacov	Respond to of 17770

It shows only that I'm not terrorized by the rhetoric of your Octengenarian gov't in Bejing.>> I think you have said all that needs to be said, thank you. I have only one question! President Clinton several time attmpted to contact Chinese Presdient. He didn't accept the phone call!!!!!!The man came to the States in 1988, smiling like a jack-ass and liking ass,for a 7days!! They need the West more than we need them. Yet president asked the House to approve the transfer of missle technology to China yesterday. That was when Big Noses couldn't show their faces in Beijing!! When are we going to stop appeasing the enemy? With all due respect for Chinese people, and their culture, we are up against a country that will test the US military might sooner or later. Then we like it or not, the body bags will arrive home!! They are offically telling us "we are going to get strong and one day will kick your ass!" The message is clear and only blinds can't read it.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8286)	5/13/1999 4:37:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 17770

Milosevic Snubs U.N. Human Rights Chief Robinson By Colin McIntyre May 13 4:23pm ET BELGRADE (Reuters) - Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic Thursday declined to meet U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson, who had wanted to raise allegations of ''ethnic cleansing'' by his forces in Kosovo. In a statement at the end of a tour of countries affected by the crisis, Robinson said accounts she and her staff had been given pointed to ``a campaign of ethnic cleansing carried out with cold-blooded determination by government, military and security forces.'' At a news conference she also implicitly criticized NATO's tactics, saying there appeared to be heavy civilian casualties. Robinson said she had ``had direct witness'' of what had driven large numbers of Kosovo Albanians from their homes, ``and it has been people in uniform, army uniform, police uniform, paramilitary uniform.'' ``It has been very brutal, and very direct, in some cases separating menfolk from their families, many of them having their homes burned immediately behind them,'' she said. ``In all of the cases, I asked 'Was it the bombing?', and I was told 'No, it was not'. I have to conclude that there must be some reason why President Milosevic did not wish to meet me. I certainly wanted to meet him.'' Robinson, a former Irish president, said she had also wanted to discuss the impact of the bombing on Serbia's civilians, and her concern that ``a kind of anti-Serbian racism'' was developing. She did manage to meet Yugoslav Foreign Minister Zivadin Jovanovic, who insisted the government did not have a policy of ethnic cleansing or dragging people from their homes. ``I came back to him and said when you have such an overwhelming pattern of violations reported by professional monitors, then it's either a deliberate policy or a policy of failing to address that.'' A Foreign Ministry statement quoted Jovanovic as telling her that the NATO attacks violated the ``basic human and democratic rights and freedoms of the 11 million Yugoslav citizens.'' It said he had expressed the expectation that Robinson would call for ``an urgent and unconditional end to the aggression, after seeing for herself the extent of the devastation and immense human casualties and suffering.'' Robinson also reported on her talks with human rights activists in Belgrade. ``I have been struck by the number of people who have said to me since I arrived 'Don't mistake our position, this has not made us supporters of President Milosevic, we are just against the bombing'. ``What has unified the population here is a shared trauma of being subject to a bombing campaign,'' Robinson said. While accepting that the motivation for the NATO campaign was humanitarian, she said there had to be ``proportionality.'' ``It should be very targeted in a military sense. And one of the question marks, and it's not for me to answer, that if you have purely an air campaign, to what extent more does it affect civilians.'' ``It seems the targets are very wide, certainly the civilian casualties are extremely high. It certainly does raise very serious questions,'' she said. Robinson said she had planned to raise a number of individual cases with Milosevic, including the detention of two Australian aid workers and a Croatian and a French journalist. Robinson noted that during her visit she had discussed with various organizations the collection of evidence of human rights abuses for possible use in the war crimes tribunal in the Hague. ``Justice must be done...I am determined that there will be accountability and that we will break the cycle of impunity. ``The similarities between Bosnia and Kosovo should not include suspected war criminals walking around freely after a settlement is reached,'' she said -- a reference to former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic and army commander Ratko Mladic, both indicted by the Hague tribunal but still at large.