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To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (1749)	5/14/1999 1:12:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 10354

I like this part the best; I got a copy of one memo he sent," Hardman said. Quoting the note, he said it read: "Scan this. This company is not going to be run on a budget." The new owners said they discovered Haleua -- who also had served time in the late 1980s after being convicted of theft -- had teamed up with another CTI officer, Lance Orlob, to take more than $600,000 out of the of the company in the two months prior to the sale. And they contended in a 3rd District Court lawsuit filed in early January that Haleua also took another $30,000 in the month after control of the school changed hands. "We knew something was up when Tali showed up after the sale driving a BMW," said David J. White, an early investor in CTI who later became chief financial officer under the new owners.

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (1749)	5/14/1999 3:05:00 PM
From: StockDung	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 10354

ATTENTION: Non-US ZSUN investors. As I understand it, many posters and lurkers on this board are non-US investors. As clients of International Asset Management and Amber Securities, these individuals bought ZSUN back in the days when the company was supposedly active in the beverage dispensing business and went under the name of BestWay (BTTF) and Carlisle. Paying approximately $4.50 to $5.00 per share in 1997, these non-US investors have endured a 2 for 1 reverse split and their cost is thus in the range of $9.00 to $10.00 per share. The surprising and disturbing fact is that to this day many of these non-US investors fail to understand that Cragun and his crew have profited enormously at their expense. Look at your holdings -TMOT/CQMT/FTFR/BVEX/DYNX/LCAI/KNGI. How have these stocks performed over the years? Are there any investors out there that have actually made any money in these stocks? Rest assured however, that the firm(s) that sold these stocks to you earned colossal profits. How do I know this? By examining the SEC filings of the full reporting companies in Cragun's stable. Without exception, these thinly traded obscure microcap companies have issued Regulation S stock which was underwritten or otherwise acquired by International Asset Management at only a fraction of the 'market' price. International Asset Management then unloaded these shares on its clients at prevailing market prices earning 100%, 200% or 300% in the process. . Still have doubts? Look at ZSUN's Consolidated Statement of Stockholders' Equity. Where is the $ 4.50 or $5.00 per share paid to International Asset Management in 1997 for the BestWay IPO per the Offering Memorandum? With the recent run up, did your Amber portfolio manager or broker encourage you to sell ZSUN at $30, $25 or even $20 to lock in some profit? Do you really think that they have your best interests at heart? I suggest that you may want to visit the SEC and Stockdetective sites to learn a little bit more about microcap fraud. Also check the Yahoo! TMOT and DYNX boards . Am I expecting you to really start asking questions? Probably not. But I did feel that I should at least share my findings with you.

To: Sir Auric Goldfinger who wrote (1749)	5/14/1999 3:35:00 PM
From: who cares?	Respond to of 10354

Well since they refused to do it, i've had my head lackie Waylon Smithers due some back of the envelope stuff as far as breaking out the numbers. Let's see, 97 gross sales 884k. That was back when they were a printing business in Manila. 98 sales 2,290k. So somewhere an additional 1.4 million came in. Looking at the different websites, I have to say the bulk of this would be from Swift Trade. You have Pinmail. Free e-mail, ooh that's a money maker. Oh wait, they'll do corporate for 22 cents. Like I said, no money. Ad based and most if not all the ads are from other ZSUN sites. MFINANCE. Fluff page. There's dozens of daytrader sites that have better content, there's even some of these individual stock picker guru types that have pages on free web page places with better content. Again, banner ad revenues. Oh i forget, they have the Barclays banner on their web site. You know, I think Barclays has a location in the Caymans if i'm not mistaken. Mediahits. Again, almost all the customers are other ZSUN companies. Searchdragon. Har har, it is to laugh. Again, banner ad driven, most banner ads from other companies. This leaves Swifttrade. Let's say a million in sales came from Swifttrade. Well EGRP and AMTD trade at 30 times sales, so that would make Swifttrade worth 30 million. You could buy small fry 800k printing businesses all day for 2x sales(or less), so that would value the bulk of 2.2 million in sales at around $32 million. Throw in some generous 50 times sales number for the remaining 400k and you get a 50 million dollar company. So this thing should be at 5 dollars a share right now, and that's compared to blue chippers,which it ain't. As an nth tier, with n>5 quasi wannabe internut, with unfiled financials and more unanswered questions than an episode of Supermodel Jeopardy this thing is at most maybe $2.50. Okay i'm not being fair and valuing it's phenomenol growth. Well when it's proven in filed financials i'll allow for it, not until. File 98 numbers, then file the first quarter, then you can make a projection and not be laughed at. Oh I forgot, what about that travelling teach you to trade bidness they just bought. Again, get it audited and file me some numbers then talk to me. Until then all I know is the last time they bought something like that it was from some guy fresh out the joint, so the track record ain't there. Mr. Burns