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To: robnhood who wrote (8909)5/18/1999 12:09:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17770
 
rrman,

I said the gov't in Bejing has no legitimacy since it is not freely elected.

China is a country, not a political system.

And Chiang was a despot. But the difference is that Taiwan now has free elections and popular participation in politics, thus proving once more the theory that there is a difference between authorian and totalitarian regimes.

We still don't see that in Bejing.

Regards,

Ron



To: robnhood who wrote (8909)5/18/1999 5:18:00 PM
From: Andy Thomas  Respond to of 17770
 
>>Of course it had Chiang Kai Scheck--- agood guy by all accounts---NOT<<

Perhaps therein lies the rub... There are Taiwanese who do see Chiang as a great heroic leader.

FWIW
Andy



To: robnhood who wrote (8909)5/18/1999 6:36:00 PM
From: lin huan chen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 17770
 
rrman:
Wasn't Tawain (sic) China according to you? Of course it had Chiang Kai Scheck--- agood guy by all accounts---NOT

Not a lot of people in Taiwan viewed Chiang as agood (sic) guy, especially Taiwanese who lived there before KMT came after WW2. Chiang treated Taiwanese the same way as he treated Chinese, which is brutal. As a matter of fact, a lot of local Taiwanese hate these Chinese and viewed them as invaders. They originally welcomed KMT but soon found out KMT just wanted use Taiwan as a base to launch a comeback to overthrow communists. After 50 years hard work from both sides, KMT and opposing party PPC, we finally have democracy.

It will be a mistake to view Taiwan government as Chiang's regime. Moreover, whatever debts Chiang owed Chinese should not be burden of Taiwanese now. If Chinese had suffered during Chiang's ruling, Taiwanese should not be different. I won't deny that KMT also has done a lot of good things after Chiang's death. Ironically, his son, a true socialist, gave up power just before his death. Before then, Taiwan is also a socialism country. I sincerely hope our brother in China also can give up power and embrace democracy. If they only rely on force to reunite Taiwan, we have successfully defended ourselves for 50 years. No reason to think we cannot defend ourselves now.
Regards
Lin