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To: gfr fan who wrote (31045)	5/18/1999 1:11:00 PM
From: Doug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 45548

gfr fan : What is the distinguishing features for a: An Aggregrate Device b: An edge Switch c: An edge Router. c: A Carrier switch. Thanks.

To: gfr fan who wrote (31045)	5/18/1999 6:47:00 PM
From: Mang Cheng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 45548

"Internet Drives Need For Switching Speed -- IBM, Cisco, 3Com Debut Ethernet Gear For High And Low Ends" May 18, 1999 INTERNETWEEK : Las Vegas -- Switching vendors added their voices to the din of last week's Networld+Interop show here, rolling out new devices for environments ranging from low-end workgroups to high-capacity campus backbones. IBM led the charge with the introduction of a new workgroup Ethernet switch, the 8275 Model 416, which offers performance as fast as 9.5 million packets per second at a cost of about $145 per port. "This is an indication that IBM is becoming a lot more competitive on the low end," said John Morency, research director at consultancy Renaissance Worldwide. "It's also important from the perspective of users that are looking at IBM as a full-service, e-commerce vendor. If IBM is going to be a soup-to-nuts provider, it has to have workgroup products like this." The 8275 Model 416 can be used as a workgroup switch to connect users on multiple floors or in multiple buildings, as a high-performance workgroup switch for connecting power users, or as an edge switch to connect a LAN to an ATM backbone using the IBM 8371 Ethernet switch. Internet traffic is driving an increasing need for bandwidth in the workgroup, said T.J. Aspden, worldwide product marketing manager at IBM. "With the move to e-business, we're seeing a lot of companies needing higher speeds-even 100 Mbps-out to the desktop," he said. The 8275 Model 416, due June 18, will offer an eight-port 10/100 Ethernet module, four-port or eight-port 100-Mbps fiber modules, or a two-port Gigabit Ethernet module. Cisco added new options to its flagship Catalyst 5000 line, including IIG and IIIG switching modules to enable multiprotocol switching and routing, gigabit connectivity and quality of service. The G series engines also offer 100-Mbps or 1,000-Mbps Ethernet uplinks, letting IT managers configure wiring closets with copper and fiber. Cisco also unveiled a 24-port 10Base-FL line card for the 5000 line, letting IT managers connect desktops with fiber more easily. The IIG and IIIG engines are $8,995 and $13,995 respectively. The 24-port 10Base-FL switching module is $7,495. All the add-ons will be available next month. 3Com also plans to unveil a high-end switching product sometime in the next few weeks, according to Rick Forberg, director of marketing for LAN solutions. The switch, which will be targeted at metropolitan area networks, will offer Gigabit Ethernet and ATM capabilities in the same box, he said. In addition, 3Com plans to roll out wave division multiplexing technology that allows its Gigabit Ethernet switches to operate at 70 to 110 kilometers, Forberg said. Terry Sweeney contributed to this story. By Tim Wilson <<INTERNETWEEK -- 05-17-99, p. PG9>>

To: gfr fan who wrote (31045)	5/19/1999 12:49:00 AM
From: Richard P. Roberts	Respond to of 45548

gfr fan, many thanks, let me offer an (older)RBOC perspective. Core vs edge, network vs terminal equipment, where to place intelligence and at what cost to whom, balancing and optimizing network and equipment costs/benefits, old ongoing battle for share of communication $$. I think the EDGE side is now starting to win. Larry Ellison's Network computer seems to have died at birth. VOIP is a killer app for cost savings, direct hit to the network cost! The intelligent aggregator is a really sharp edge ! Cuts the cloud to shreds <g> I sold RBOC network based voice/data/video services. Often,network centric solutions where more expensive and limited than terminal equipment(edge)solutions. These points (and the interview) is why I think Eric's edge vision is right on target. Pity to spoil it with a breakup or sale , after all number two ain't bad. <g> Comments ?