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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (12598)	5/20/1999 2:25:00 PM
From: PiMac	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

Neocon, let me revisit your quote, <Exchange- value is relative to the desires of consumers and the incentives necessary to get producers to fulfill those desires.#12585>, and look at it in terms of relationships. The core kernel of an economic relationship must have 2 actors, each with one object. The exchange of objects is the entirety of the relationship. There are variations. Each actor can be anyone, or anything, tangible or intangible. A farmer exchanges his water for the earth's crops. The chicken ranch exchanges chicken for presence, and motion.... The innovation in this relationship, was money. It allowed a substitution of one object for a placeholder. The placeholder became a universal object, tying all transactions into one system. [Not one transaction, kudos to your value clarification.] With so numerous and frequent activities, once separate but now having commonality, the relationship itself, and its parts, can be studied and improved upon. "Improved upon" has only a side effect of getting more of his object for less of yours, but the goal of getting every object where it has the most value.... Humankind has many other relationships. They do not have the requirements of 1+1 & 1+1, or a maximum goal, or even an exchange, equal or not. A parent's relationship with a child is independent of the stuff and bother. Independent of any reciprocality. So, too, is a stalker's. Seeing public schooling as an investment in the strength of the country, its defense, and its peaceful civil order, is an economic relationship. Seeing universal schooling as a necessity for persons in our country expresses a different relationship. Sex for hire is an economic exchange. Sex for various other reasons, including economic exchange, is not an economic relationship. And non-sex for economic reasons is not an economic relationship, just as non-sex, non-economic, non-relationships are not a matter of attention. ; - ) But I digress.... These other, non-economic relationships, whether to others, oneself, or the universe, [aesthetic, moral, sanity, pleasure, ...] do not have the convenience of an artificial catalyst for understanding and improving their goals. The unique system that does, that has begun improvement, has an advantage in getting and holding adherents and the energies of other systems. The other systems decline - by not keeping up. This is an explanation for the havoc wreaked on the world's peoples by economic change: the blame lies not with economics, but with the 'competition'.... It does little for those declining systems. -pi Mac