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To: MKTMD who wrote (4309)5/20/1999 5:15:00 PM
From: ithasnospaces  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4767
 
YEAH! What he said. DOUG BUTCHER (Yes you...your ego won't let you NOT read this board). Please take your ego and wife and shares and boatload of incompetence and go to those golden acres on the lake and watch The Shining until it makes sense. Please. Baby needs new shoes.

(Hey Gator -- whats you comments on the following. Suggestion, post the message link into your disclaimer!)

YOU SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENTIRE ETPI BOARD IS JUST A YES MAN BOARD HAND PICKED BY MR BUTCHER FOR HIS OWN CONVIENCE. GRASBERGER IS THE ONLY ONE WHO WILL STAND UP TO DOUG THE OTHERS ALL HE DOES IS LOOK AT THEM LIKE A CHILD AND THEY VOTE ON WHAT EVER HE SAYS. IF YOU LOOK BACK GRASGERGER IS THE ONLY ONE TO VOTE NO ON ANY OF THE ACQUISITIONS AND DOUGS WIFE ONLY VOTES FOR WHAT WILL BENEFIT HER AND DOUG PERSONALLY SHE HAS NO BUSN. EXPERIENCE AT ALL EXCEPT AS A BAR TENDER AT REDFISH AND SHE LOST MONEY AT THAT. MADAMBA IS A JOKE WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGEMENT HE HAS YET TO MAKE A PROFIT AT ANY VENTURE HE IS IN CHARGE OF AND HAS NO MANAGEMENT SKILLS, HE IS CONSTANTLY PUT IN POSITIONS THAT HE CAN NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HE IS BEST IN THE OFFICE BEHIND A COMPUTER BUT DOUG USES HIM FOR DRIVING TRUCKS AND MOVING GAMES AT 60K A YEAR IN SALARY! HE IS DOUGS YES BOY I THINK (I KNOW) FROM CONVERSATION WITH GRASSBERGER THAT THEY ARE FED UP WITH BUTCHER BUT HAVE THEIR HANDS TIED,AT A BOARD MEETING AS THEY CALL IT WHEN EVER DOUG YELLS DOWN THE HALL FOR EVERY ONE TO COME TO HIS OFFICE, THEY TOLD BUTCHER THEY COULD NOT AFFORD HIM AT HIS SALARY AND HIS REPLY WAS IF THEY CUT HIS SALARY HE WOULD JUST SELL STOCK BECAUSE HE HAS 8AC ON THE WATER FRONT AND A HOME IN CALIF. AND FLA. AND PROPERTY IN THE PHILLIPINES HE HAS TO PAY FOR AND A MERCEDES CONV HIS WIFE MUST HAVE. BUTCHER HAS TAKEN THIS COMPANY AS FAR AS HE CAN BUT HIS EGO WILL NEVER LET HIM STEP ASIDE AND LET A REAL BUSN PERSON STEP IN AND MAKE DECESIONS FOR STOCK HOLDERS INTREST AND NOT FOR HIS PERSONAL QUEST TO SELL OFF ENOUGH STOCK SLOWLY NOT TO BE NOTICED AS TO MAKE HIM A MILLONAIRE BY THE TIME HE IS 40 THIS YEAR EVEN AT THE EXPENCE OF STOCK HOLDERS. SORRY TO GE ON A SOAP BOX BUT HAVE WATCHED AND HEARD HIM MAKE THESE COMMENTS.THIS COMPANY COULD BE A SOLID CO. IF BUTCHER WOULD STEP ASIDE AND ASSIST GRASSBERGER WITH NIELIFE AND DO WHAT HE DOSE BEST SELL IN THE FIELD AND LET SOMEONE MAKE HIM A MULTI MILLIONAIRE WITH A THAT 9MIL SHARES HE OWNS.ONE LAST THING DOUGS WIFE AS A BOARD MEMBER WAS THE SWING VOTE ON HER RECIEVING 100,000 SHARES FOR SIGNING ON A PERSONAL GUARENTEE SHE WONT SIGN ANYTHING WITHOUT DOUG CONVIENCING THE BOARD TO GIVE HER STOCK! IS THIS A PUBLIC CO. OR A PRIVATE COM.?



To: MKTMD who wrote (4309)5/21/1999 8:29:00 AM
From: Kelly Igou  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4767
 
Interesting post. I noted that you are brand new to SI, having joined on 5/18.

Tell us about yourself. Without a little more information about where your information comes from, only a fool would trust it. This doesn't mean it's not true, just that I wouldn't trust it unless it was verifiable.

1. We all know (at this point) that Doug and Grassberger run the company; that's not a debatable item.
2. I'm not interested in what Doug uses his money for. I'm not interested in how much or why he is selling, as long as it is predictable. Many CEOs engage in regular program selling in order to achieve a limited cash-out. It's just smart with respect to personal financial risk.
3. I'm not interested in Madamba or the other guy. They don't participate in formulating strategy. They're non-factors.
4. What I am interested in is what the next steps for ETPI may be. Right now, they're involved in the so-called "focus and finish" stuff. What is on the plate for Management for July to December, after the waterpark is operating, and they've "finished"? What are the priorities?

Let's get this board moving away from bitching and moving more toward constructive thought.

Surely you all must understand that ETPI, regardless of its merit (or lack thereof) will not rise in value until people start buying the stock. No one in their right mind would buy this stock after reading the last few days of posts.

Quit shooting yourselves in the foot!