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To: dave rose who wrote (3636)	5/21/1999 1:40:00 PM
From: mr.mark	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110626

hi dave, lots of discussion on this thread about that exact issue not too long ago. maybe you can search it out without too much trouble. of course there are plenty of variables impacting what is occurring for you. but i'd say that the main difficulty may be in running background apps while you're doing the defrag. this can cause the defrag process to continually start over, and it's never completed. try shutting down everything except explorer, then defragging. good luck. :) mark

To: dave rose who wrote (3636)	5/21/1999 1:47:00 PM
From: mr.mark	Respond to of 110626

here's that "marathon" defragging post.... #reply-8991807 check out all the helpful replies. the consensus is to shut down background applications, and/or get norton system works2.0. i agree with pmswitch about norton. i run it on my machines and it's a great utility suite. :) mark

To: dave rose who wrote (3636)	5/21/1999 4:53:00 PM
From: Tom Swift	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110626

I used to have that problem too. I found that, in my case, it was my antivirus software. If you shut down eveything running in the tray before defragging it will quit restarting on you.

To: dave rose who wrote (3636)	5/22/1999 9:58:00 AM
From: PMS Witch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 110626

Defrag stuff ... Before you defrag your disk, start windows in 'Safe Mode' by holding down Function key 5 while Windows starts. Your screen should look ugly with 'Safe Mode' written in the corners. The paranoid could double check this by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Delete keys simultaneously and making sure only 'explorer', which is required, is running. This is a good, and safe, operating environment to defrag your disk. I agree with the other posts about Norton's defrag programs: they're fast; they offer some useful options such as file sorting and placement; and they point out hidden problems before they get a chance to cause trouble. Once I back-up my working disks, I use Norton's defrag to put the back-up at the end of the disk where it'll be 'out of the way', and with any luck, will never be needed. This reduces the disk head 'travel time' since it needn't be constantly 'skipping over' this large chunk of data. My disk defrags take about 10-15 minutes with Norton. I've run out of patience with the Win98 (Intel) defrag and terminated it, unfinished, after an hour. Hope this helps, PW. P.S. I also use Norton's defrag to sort my files.