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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Neocon who wrote (12622)	5/22/1999 2:58:00 PM
From: PiMac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

This <intermediate kind of calculation, one that is beyond exchange- value, but requires practical action,> is the Economic System's definition of the impact of Other Systems' impact on the ES. You rename it, later here, as <guidelines in our thinking about what is important, and the relative trade- offs.> The calculations and guidelines yield a quasi-mathematical model you call <a rough hierarchy of goods.> I previously referred to it from the Other Systems' viewpoints. Your career and "Catch-22"s Milo Minderbender feeding the troops chocolate covered cotton are examples of these cross-system effects, that move purely economic considerations into a more accurate and realistic place in the rough hierarchy. In the running for competition for finite resources, the rough hierarchy, are All systems: Economic and Others. My overall point is that in this competition, the economic system...the most efficient, the most quantifiable, the most abstractable from the concrete...will raise it's finishing position, more than is warranted. This mis-position is in addition to the indeterminacy that contingent conditions bring to the hierarchy. The 'math model' indeterminacy always favors Economics in the competition; the "contingent conditions" indeterminacy favors or slights All Systems randomly. [War increases systemic Hardheartedness in the country; peace increases Generosity] Each decision about the hierarchy is cumulatively adding more for the Economic System. Put it at the skating contest: All judges have biases. That is, they can't see the true value of the performance. That is Contingent Indeterminacy. If one judge gets a rounding, while the rest get a truncation, that is Model Indeterminacy. The best skaters will all conform to that judge's bias. Soon, all skating will be as he wishes skating to be. You mention centralization / decentralization of choices for where society can place the judging, or current definition, of the hierarchy of goods. I am unclear where you were going with this, but I suspect it was as a means to be more efficient in reducing the "Contingent" uncertainties in the allocation, hierarchy of goods, decision. Generally, speaking, I'm for decentralization. But I suspect that we have some discussion what that means. Way back, many posts, you disagreed as vehemently as I've ever seen you do, with my assertion that government taxation and reallocation of wealth has an integral part in Prosperity. The above discussion on contingent conditions, nor decentralization, has no part in my reasoning. Rather my reasoning has basis in the economic system's Math Model contingency, and the extra internal efficiency it brings -- from abstracted manipulation [from the variable, currency] -- to the external, inter-system competition. That gives a constant, cumulative edge over other systems. Provisionally, I see that only government has the power to correct that mishandicap back to other systems. Direct taxes are very decentralized. Milton F.'s idea of a negative income tax would be equally decentralized. My stock pipe dreaming was a more accurate, but complex, idea to return the 'mishandicapped' economic power source, not product, to the citizen, where all Systems converge. PS. In a sense, it seems I am suggesting Economics have become too powerful for our average childishness. Suddenly the dismal science confronts not only the powderkeg of welfare, but adds the sparks of gun contol and nuclear weapons. Help. I'm possessed by Pandora! ok, I'm played on this post