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To: Scumbria who wrote (59111)	5/21/1999 4:19:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1572194

RE:"You Intellabees are generating interference with your cross talk.'... Understand that much of there fortunes are riding on Intel stock. Their nerves are starting to fire on all cylinders. The FUD is just a form of hope and one of denial. In truth they are on the edge of their seats, hoping, praying, for AMD to screw up again. Every piece of evidence that the K7 actually exists and is near release has to be rebuked just to achieve that warm and fuzzy feeling. Jim

To: Scumbria who wrote (59111)	5/21/1999 4:22:00 PM
From: Burt Masnick	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572194

Scumbria: Thanks for your gracious and polite clarification. If I understand correctly 1) The K7 in its final version has then been produced and final chips have been or will shortly be released to prospective boxmakers in sample quantities, to followed by manufacturing volumes shortly. 2) The interpretation of Anand's letter should be that the final version is available to him and he will release the results of his tests on that version of the K7 when he is allowed to as per his NDA with AMD. 3) The K7 will be released in June. Boxes will be available for sale in June or July at the latest. 4) The likelihood is that boxes will be available at 500 MHz, 550 MHz and possibly higher (600 MHz) at their intro. If I have any of this wrong, please correct me. Burt

To: Scumbria who wrote (59111)	5/21/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572194

Re: "First Elmer makes a baseless statement: If Anand is right there still isn't a fully debugged K7." Scumbria, coming from you, the accusation of a "baseless statement" is cause for a good laugh! Thanks. Here's what Anand said: "I get my first non-AMD K7 motherboard within the next month, along with an updated revision of the K7". So Anand will be getting an updated revision. I don't have to tell you what a blocking bug is. If they're still reving the chip then it could still have bugs. That's not baseless, it's the results of many years of watching this whole process unfold. Until it's out there and K7 CUSTOMERS say there are no bugs, it could still be full of them. So far we haven't even heard from a potential K7 customer. Wait until Robert Collins gets ahold of one! EP

To: Scumbria who wrote (59111)	5/21/1999 8:18:00 PM
From: TGPTNDR	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572194

Scumbria Re: <First Elmer makes a baseless statement: If Anand is right there still isn't a fully debugged K7.> There is no, and never has been a fully debuged chip of any serious complexity. <Then you expand upon it with some FUD: If there isn't a debugged K7 now, how will boxmakers make products available for sale in June?> The boxmakers, software developers, and chipset makers can design around most minor flaws. We may or may not see production chips in June, but my current thinking is that K7 production at FAB25 will be less than 200K chips in Q3(I hope I'm wrong). 200K X $300 = $60,000K (call me light on both numbers, get to $200,000K) - chump change, but a good start. The money won't start flowing 'till we get the 8, 16, 32, and 64 SMP designs in production. tgptndr