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To: The Dodgy Ticker who wrote (3094)	5/22/1999 8:42:00 PM
From: shero	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3702

There is alot here that is baffling. Strum may be the 10 month man but he is not the GBM patient who has survived 39 weeks. I guess there are two 10 month men (and hope for all the girls looking for one-L) There is now a diverse field of knowledge surrounding TNT. There is data from China. There is data from Mexico--which may be where the "Strum" report derives its data--this makes sense because the Mexico TNT study was not conducted by TCLN, but by, I think USC. Now there is both Phase 1 data on TNT for GBM and there was another study done with TNT years ago for prostate cancer, I believe by PAACT, here in the USA. So much data, so little publicity. Anyone have thoughts about all this?

To: The Dodgy Ticker who wrote (3094)	5/23/1999 6:12:00 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 3702

Robert, Cotara can only be used in FDA approved experiments before the FDA formal process is finished. It is illegal and against the USA constitution to use Cotara in pursuit of Life Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness until the FDA has decided that it meets their criteria as 'a legitimate product' for use by approved clinical practitioners in approved clinical facilities. So, to answer your question, Cotara cannot be used other than in FDA experiments. You will be jailed if you try it. You will be shot and killed if you resist having your freedom circumscribed. This is [apparently] GOOD for you and freedom. People who are dying cannot be put at risk according to the FDA even though there is good evidence that they might not need to die if they take the minimal risk of using Cotara to kill their brain tumour. Should they try it and resist arrest, they will, of course, be killed. If you read 'Catch 22' and Orwell's '1984' you will start to get the picture. 'Atlas Shrugged' wouldn't hurt either. 'Tweedles Be Brave' is another. There is a rich literature on the theme of autocracy and the individual. Being illiterate, I'm not really up on it, but I think that's true. We should not confuse the fantasy of freedom which is widely promulgated in the USA and other 'free' countries with the behaviour which people exhibiting free will might actually choose to do. You are only free to do things which are approved as within the bounds of freedom. Authoritarian people find no lack of logic in this position because their foundation premise is that they are the boss and the universe is a subset of their existence. They define the bounds of freedom and those bounds generally involve them enjoying a financially rewarding way of life. To summarize, if you get a glioma, which will definitely kill you, you may not try to save yourself, even though the constitution seems to say you may pursue life, liberty and happiness as an inalienable right according to Shero. That is because the Cotara might be dangerous [although there is nothing to suggest that]. If you try it and resist arrest for breaking FDA rules, they'll kill you. It seems that people with gliomas are not allowed much chance of life in the USA, land of the free and brave. Maurice PS: I'd like to add that your chances are best in the USA! Don't come to NZ whatever you do - we don't even have a written constitution. They just ban everything unless it is specifically approved! That's a slight exaggeration.