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To: Krowbar who wrote (38498)	5/24/1999 5:54:00 AM
From: Ish	Respond to of 108807

<<Did you know that Robert Rodale, who I believe published organic farming, dropped dead on the Dick Cavet show shortly after proclaiming that he would live to a ripe old age because he ate only organic food. >> It was Organic Gardening, I used to get it. Same people publish Prevention now. It was the night after the Cavet show at a company dinner. He gave the same speech, sat down and died. Organic foods didn't save him, didn't kill him either. Bad artery.

To: Krowbar who wrote (38498)	5/24/1999 6:14:00 AM
From: Chuzzlewit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Okay, I can't stand it any more: Nature genetically engineers plants all of the time. It's called natural selection. No, the processes are very different. Natural selection depends upon the survival and fecundity of naturally occurring phenotypes under natural conditions. Genetic engineering depends upon the creation of and nurturing of a specific genotype that the geneticist decides is valuable. This should not be confused with artificial selection, which is the result of selective breeding to establish naturally occurring allotypes that the breeder wishes to encourage. For example, breeds of dogs arose as the result of artificial selection, but this is different from genetic engineering, where foreign genes are inserted into an organism. For example, genetic engineering can insert the gene of human proinsulin into a bacterium allowing for the commercial production of human insulin. Neither natural selection nor artificial selection could ever result in the creation of such an organism. The use of pesticides has resulted in the existence of DDT resistance in flies through natural selection. Ditto the existence of antibiotic resistant bacteria. In the case of corn, the gene for Bt toxin was transferred from a bacterium, Bacillus thuringienensis to corn. The real problem is the release of engineered organisms into the environment. The existence of the Bt toxin in corn pollen is such an example, because the action of the toxin is not specific. The issue may not restricted to the potential danger to the monarch butterfly. It might exist for other species of ecologically important organisms which could cause major shifts in the ecosystem -- shifts which have unknown and potentially untoward consequences. TTFN, CTC

To: Krowbar who wrote (38498)	5/24/1999 8:03:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Do you prefer processed salt just because it does not contain "walrus snot and fish pee"? Have you ever tasted sea salt? Some people with discerning tastes prefer it to sprinkle on cooked food because it has a less intense "salty" flavor. It also has a lot of trace minerals. Sometimes I like to "salt" my food with tamari, a mild Japanese soy sauce, which is made with sea salt. I admit, I am a hedonist, I like food that tastes good, I don't like eating things, or not eating things, for political reasons. I just don't like the taste of heavily processed food with a lot of chemicals (except for Cheetos, and cokes).;^)

To: Krowbar who wrote (38498)	5/30/1999 10:33:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

When a huge cloud of grasshoppers descends upon a crop, would it be possible to counter with some creature that eats grasshoppers? And even if it is not, wouldn't it be better to occasionally lose a crop to grasshoppers than to poison the earth's waterways with pesticides the way we are now? And I like walrus snot and fish pee, thank you very much, especially when they are all nicely dried and salty. They have so much more CHARACTER than plain old chemical salt, and I do desire a lot of character in my food. In fact, that is where I get most of my spunk!