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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (30945)5/25/1999 8:05:00 PM
From: kech  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 152472
 
Maurice-Mo China stuff - The US can't take any NZ land until the Europeans stop beefing about our hormone laden beef. The funny thing is that the real problem with livestock isn't how much hormones the US uses on cows it is that the Europeans use too many antibiotics on livestock and the resistance builds up. There is actually science supporting this problem (unlike the European criticism of hormones diated meat).

On China, I didn't mention Tibet or Tianamen to pretend any sanctimonious position just to point out that a group of old men running China get touchy about other countries pointing out problems. The real sensitive spot isn't Tibet, it is Taiwan. The thought of US supporting Kosovo against Serbia sounds a lot like the way they could support Taiwan if China ever tried to do assert themselves over what they (and the US diplomatically) think of as greater China.

Another thing is that we probably shouldn't talk about a monolithic China, there are factions there I am sure are pushing the embassy issue for their own advantage - even though I know little of who they are. In the same way it doesn't really make sense to talk about "The US" bombing the embassy intentionally. Maybe there is some faction that can gain some advantage of it, but even if there is an ex post motivation it is really hard to imagine that they could successfully pull strings in the military to pull it off. As for the need to put the military on trial and show all the mistaken maps and chain of command and reveal what agents might have suggested the embassy as a munitions storage facility -- it just won't happen. China won't admit that they spied even though all the data is one Won Ho Lee's hard drive. Gee - I wonder how it got there. Somebody else pointed out they won't put him on trial because calling witnesses would put too much info into the public domain.
I just played tennis with a Purdue Historian who is kind of a Serb expert- he said when he gets e-mails through (when the electricity works) most of his contacts there can't believe they are being bombed. They think there are no atrocities done by Serbs. It seems that Serbs are in the dark. I also think the Chinese people are largely in the dark about what is happening and can be played like an instrument with selective information dispersal. That is what was going on with the refusal to take the call from Clinton - not a rejection of Clinton's morality or a real legitimate demand to expect to see everything revealed about how the mistake occurred. They don't want to know - they (meaning the Chinese leadership) want to still keep the issue to maintain the outrage. It is surprising and inconsistent to me to hear the Chinese be legitimately outraged by Japan about the Rape of Nanking but not mention a word in support of their former allies the Albanians (among a rather small group consisting of N. Korea, Pakistan, Irag) and the ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. For them not to make this obvious link means to me that they care little about the humanitarian issues involved in the bombing but are using them for some other means. That is why I see it only as either a rather shallow outrage or what is more likely, a concern about the possibility of a precedent that would mean China can't do what they want over their province of greater Sovereign China - Taiwan.