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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (38585)5/26/1999 6:11:00 PM
From: Krowbar  Respond to of 108807
 
It is interesting that neither word refers to the other in the definitions in 2 dictionaries that I checked.

ethical: conforming to the right principles of conduct as accepted by a specific profession, as medicine.

moral: of or pertaining to conduct or character from the point of right or wrong.

Sounds like ethical is more specific to groups

Del




To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (38585)5/26/1999 7:32:00 PM
From: Rambi  Respond to of 108807
 
FOr LLR, but everyone else forget it-- boring stuff--

From Lewis Thomas' Notes of a Word-Watcher:
<bMores, moral, morals, morality emerged from the root me, which simply meant one's state of mind. The mores of a
community are the customs, determined by how the members generally feel about each other. Morality is what we've decided to agree on as a set of rules for living together, based on what we think of ourselves as a people; it is rather nice to know that moralis was formed by Cicero to render the same meaning as Greek ethicos. Our ethics and morals, collectively, are rooted in our appraisal of humanity.
He later mentions that ethos is a set of assumptions about the whole species, an inclusive word for what we suppose ourselves to be.

From 2000 Most CHallenging and Obscure Words (Norman Schur)
Nothing on morality- but
ethos- The ethos of a culture is its basic spirit or character, the fundamnetal sentiment that pervades its beliefs and practices. spirit permeating an age or the arts, esp. literature, of a social group.
Taken intact from the Greek, where it means "custom" or "character".

Fowler: ethic- relating to morals esp concerning human conduct
moral- the lesson of a fable, story etc., moral behavior refers esp to sexual conduct-

I think Ish may have intuited the difference. Darned if I can tell.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (38585)5/26/1999 8:12:00 PM
From: Graystone  Respond to of 108807
 
Morales is an actor
or
Ethical is Diet Gasoline.

Simple really.



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (38585)5/26/1999 9:04:00 PM
From: jbe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Moral/Ethical. From Crabb's "English Synonyms":

Latin mos, meaning custom, was Cicero's translation of the Greek ethikos, indicating habitual conduct. Both words, therefore, were meant to refer to a habit of right action habitual with the individual and sanctioned by the custom of the society in which he lived. But ethical has come to refer to the principles of right in the abstract, with reference to the individual character and its complete development in accordance with general human laws; moral refers to action as affecting the community and sanctioned by social and religious law. Ethical has philosophical connotations; moral practical and religious ones. When we speak of something as being ethically right, we suggest that we are going back to first principles and judging it as a matter of abstract right and wrong. When we speak of something as being morally wrong, we are thinking especially of the act in relation to society and social judgments.

A slightly different, and shorter, slant, from The American Heritage Dictionary:

Moral pertains to personal behavior (especially sexual) measured by prevailing standards of rectitude. Ethical approaches behavior from a philosophical standpoint; it stresses more objectively defined, but essentially idealistic, standards of right and wrong, such as those applicable to doctors, lawyers, and businesses.

Think about it. Ethics has long been a major discipline within philosophy; can you imagine Morality as a branch of philosophy??

Good question, though. It can get quite confusing, since in practice people seem to use the two words interchangeably.

Joan

P.S. Penni, why would you think your post would be boring to anyone but Lather? Perhaps he should have posted his query to the Grammar Lab -- that stuff never bores us! <g>