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To: Paul Senior who wrote (7334)5/27/1999 12:21:00 AM
From: Wade  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78625
 
Paul,

Glad to see you at here. If you are looking for another value stock. Please check this out. BOOM is a tiny company with a very big name:

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Sincerely,
Wade



To: Paul Senior who wrote (7334)5/27/1999 12:25:00 AM
From: James Clarke  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 78625
 
Yeah, I invested in WHX because it was free. And I sold it when it wasn't. (My history on the stock on this thread was a lot more complicated than that, but that is what I intended to do, and it would have meant a 60% gain in about 6 months). That has nothing to do with Michael Porter. That's Ben Graham. Porter becomes relevent when you are looking to buy a business, not dead assets. I don't mean that as a perjorative - I think people who have watched me here know I play both ends of the barbell. I will buy dead assets when they are extremely cheap - that's Graham. (Buy dog sh*t for half the going price for dog sh*t)

But I also try to understand "assets" in the form of good businesses you would want to hold for a while, provided you get the valuation right. This is a totally different valuation exercise. Porter tells you how to identify such businesses, so does Buffett. Buffett tells you how to buy them at the right price, Porter doesn't. I do not believe value investing is Graham or Buffett - I firmly believe it is both - it requires knowing which is which and applying the appropriate tools to each.



To: Paul Senior who wrote (7334)5/27/1999 10:44:00 AM
From: Bob Rudd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78625
 
<<It's not about exit barriers or competitive advantage>> Value investors in a going concern bet that the price of a business underestimates the earnings flows going forward. Understanding competitive factors that might affect those flows gives one an edge in making that judgement, IMO. Porter's work provides conceptual tools for evaluating competitive position and strategy. It enhances judgement, but isn't the whole enchilada.