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To: Gary Ng who wrote (59734)5/26/1999 11:18:00 PM
From: kash johal  Respond to of 1572120
 
Gary,

Re: "Do you think even Intel seems to be hitting this problem about
L2 cache ?"

Obviously.

Frankly knowing a little about SRAMs its amazes me they can even ship any Xeons. Designing and yielding Full speed SRAMs is non-trivial and very expensive.

This is AMDs first attempt so maybe even 1/2 speed cache is difficult.

It is much easier to meet the timing requirements with on chip RAM.

So Coppermine is definately the way for Intel to go.

They reduce costs by probably >>50% and up performance somewhat over an equivalent speed PIII and Xeon.

AMD made the decision to go with 128Kb L1 and off chip cache.

And that's probably the right decision for the K7 as they would need 4xL1 cache or 512Kb on chip cache to really hit its stride.

So at 0.18 micron you will probably see the K7 really hits it stride next year when they incorporate on chip cache.

However the 0.25 K7 should be very competitive with the 0.18 Coppermine.

Should be interesting how the AMD 0.18 process ramp goes at Fab 25 and of course at dresden.

Regards,

Kash