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To: Hardly B. Solipsist who wrote (10836)	5/27/1999 7:47:00 AM
From: Raybert	Respond to of 19079

<<I thought about taking this offline>> Another vote here for not doing that. I'm also studying for my DBA cert and have recently become a stockholder. I'm new to the Oracle system so I spend a lot more time listening than talking, but I've got an Oracle 7.3 and 8 server in production and I'm setting up a new 8i server. I'll try to let you know what I find out as I can. In general though, I think Oracle has a solid future ahead of it. The need for more and better info & applications on a companies website will create a much bigger pie in the database market. Oracle will be, if not the dominant player, one of the dominant players in this market.

To: Hardly B. Solipsist who wrote (10836)	5/27/1999 8:39:00 AM
From: MikeM54321	Respond to of 19079

"I thought about taking this offline, but getting information from someone with real experience on this topic seemed relevant to the thread, since this is the area that Oracle is betting the biggest on for the future." Hardly, Don't take it offline. Keep the topic public. I agree that it's where LE apparently is positioning ORCL and is very relevant to ORCL investors. Thanks, MikeM(From Florida)

To: Hardly B. Solipsist who wrote (10836)	5/27/1999 9:36:00 AM
From: Michael Olin	Respond to of 19079

I know of one site in NY that is re-working a very large EIS/DSS project from client-server to three-tier/Java. They have already replaced all of their OS side scripting (get data files from mainframe, load into Oracle, start processing) that was originally in VAX DCL, then Unix C-shell with Java. For the actual processing of the loaded data, the PL/SQL code will remain in place because it seems to run significantly faster than Java (for DML in the server). They are doing new "forms" development using JBuilder rather than JDeveloper because there seems to be too much of a lag between when functionality becomes available in the base product (JBuilder) and the Oracle version (JDeveloper). Their home grown reports server, which runs on a dedicated set of PCs will be replaced with the Oracle Reports Multi-Threaded Server. This may not be an enterprise-wide application, but it is highly visible within the organization. I hope to have some of the developers on that project at the NYOUG cruise in June so that the Oracle Product Managers and others from Oracle can get a better idea of what people in the "real world" are doing with 8i and Java. I have also seen a third party asset-management and workflow tools vendor talk about their plans (and partnership with Oracle) to move their product to 8i to take advantage of iFS. They plan to eliminate the middleware layer of their product which manages the location of things in the file system. They expect that the database will now handle all of this for them. Oracle 8i is really the 8.1 release we had been expecting for a long time, and much more. It is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a gamble by Oracle on the success of Java as a platform. At the upcoming NYOUG meeting/cruise in June, one of the presentations is titled "Why I Would Use Oracle8i". Only one of the four topics to be covered in this talk has anything to do with Java. I'm ordering a big hard drive and some more memory this week. I plan to have Oracle8i for Linux running on a souped-up old 486 box shortly after the long weekend. It's also getting to be time to get a WebDB app out the door. So little time... -Michael