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To: Mike Milde who wrote (10839)5/27/1999 9:41:00 AM
From: WTSherman  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 19079
 
<Java performance is excellent compared to what it was just 2 years ago. Portals and stock trading sites are being implemented enitrely with Java on the server side now days.<

Absolutely correct on both points, however, the fact is two years ago the technology was virtually useless. Therefore, a comparison with those days is meaningless. If you regularly use sites that are Java based(like Fidelity's online trading) you know that these are horrifically slow and regularly experience fatal errors at the browser.

I'm not saying the Java isn't an interesting tool or that it won't become a major force. All I'm saying is that today, it just isn't there when it comes to enterprise applications. My company has written both Java based apps and those based on more standard tools.
Java isn't there, yet.

On a larger question, though this discussion is interesting it really wasn't the central question to me. Rather, its LE's burning desire to get around MS and whether or not he is pushing their organization to Java before its ready. Its interesting to note that IBM made a decision two years ago to develop most of their new applications in Java. Few are deployed today and they have had to go back and update older versions, non-Java, to keep customers happy.