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To: gregor who wrote (1520)5/27/1999 10:22:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14396
 
†...He didn't have you gregor...†

drugs have him.

And Allen would rather be on drugs than trust in God! drugs are easier.! You did not let him slip back.....he pulled away!

He is not yet down far enough.
Allen is just kidding himself. Looking for excuses.

His statement:
that tif he knew 100 % that God would save him and then give him the
strength not to ever touch drugs again the rest of his life he would get saved
immediately.
If he believed in God 100 % he would know and trust God to be able to do anything. Allen is just looking for excuses to stay on drugs.
Or maybe he does know it, and like many he does not really think he needs to be saved.

Maybe he just needs to fall so far down that all he can see is UP.!

I will pray that God uses your testimony to Allen when he gets to that place of complete and utter need of something other than drugs!

God bless you gregor and keep you and yours.
Shalom...><>
BTW how old is he?



To: gregor who wrote (1520)6/2/1999 10:20:00 AM
From: WTCausby  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14396
 
Gregor:

I will pray for Allen Taylor and for your efforts to reach him for the Lord. However, Allen should realize that Salvation is not about beating a drug addiction, it's not about getting a good job, or a car, or wealth, or happiness while we live here on Earth. In fact, the Lord warned us, and experience bears it out, that there will come times when we will experience difficult times precisely because of our relationship with the Lord.

Salvation is about a relationship with God the Father through the Son, Jesus Christ and with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Using Salvation as a way to attempt to beat a drug addiction obscures the true point. Allen, and all who seek, must earnestly desire the personal, one-on-one relationship with God. Once they seek that relationship by confessing their sins (we have all fallen short and sinned) and asking for forgiveness through the power of the Lord Jesus, then these other things will fall into place in due course.

Where before there was a relationship with drugs, that relationship can be replaced with a relationship with God. Where before there was a relationship with illicit sex, that relationship can be replaced with a relationship with God. Where before there was a relationship with the constant attempt to accumulate wealth, or advance in one's job, or to drive a bigger car, or abusing a spouse or child, and every other thing that is driven by our sinful human natures, those relationships can be replaced with a relationship with God.

Gregor, it sounds like Allen is not truly seeking this glorious relationship with the Lord, Jesus Christ that we are experiencing. It's the relationship that, once established, becomes the all-consuming force in one's life. I will pray that Allen will come to seek a personal relationship with the Lord.

In Christ, Tom