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To: Zardoz who wrote (34616)5/28/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
<<34618

"but why aren't the european central banks that smart?"

Thought they tried to introduce a Euro coin, or was it a Y2K coin? Either way it didn't work to well for Canada, why would it work for them? Isn't this why Peter Munk went to Euro-land to convince them to turn CB gold into coins, more then a few years ago?

Or did he go to see how much he could get them to lease to him, and started to agressively forward sell. I really wonder why he really went... hmmmmm Maybe Ken comments are spot on.>>

But where Ken misses it(and I have posted this before), some miners sell forward not from leased & loaned gold, rather, from their own mined inventory prefering to borrow cash Vs gold. You will note mined inventories listed for HM, AU & some others. Thus, the forward gold they are using is their own which might well be viewed as an attempt to restrict current supply.



To: Zardoz who wrote (34616)5/28/1999 12:30:00 PM
From: Ken Benes  Respond to of 116764
 
Hutch:

Gold miners are a funny breed. They are similar in many ways to soldiers. On the surface they appear to be rugged individualists, however when you look a bit closer, they have a need to take orders and are team players.
With the exception of Newmont and a few others, the producers(particularly the South Africans and the Australians) are in an alliance with the central banks and they are not the ones giving the orders. It is my opinion, that the executives of the gold companies have been bought and sold with a lot of perks and prestege given them by those who do control the gold market. It is also my opinion that GATA is barking up the wrong tree. To prove a conspiracy against the central banks and governments that they have been coconspirators in an overt effort to manipulate the price of gold is nearly impossible. The fact that a lot of the funds supporting GATA comes from the producers makes their efforts more suspect. To restore golds true equilibrium price would not be difficult. The producers themselves hold the cards. This fact is more evident with the realization that better than one third of the central bank holdings have either been leased or sold forward thru a syndicate of investment banks and producers. Should the producers withdraw from the game of derivatives in gold with the aforementioned as active partners, the game ends, period.

Ken