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To: Andy Thomas who wrote (10567)	5/30/1999 8:06:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 17770

"Perhaps in originally choosing those people Yahweh gave them a greater ability for good - or evil, than any other group. That's why some Jews rise to such heights in human achievement, and some "Jews" are such scoundrels... another simplistic theory I guess but..." There was a lot of wisdom in your post, but you failed miserably when you came to the Jews as God's chosen. The Hebrew Jews of the Old Testament were the chosen of God. Modern Jews are the Hebrew Jews of the OT. A brief look at the face of Israel will reveal black Ethiopian Jews, Arab-semitic Jews, Spanish Sephardic Jews, Ashkenazic-Khazar Jews, Oriental Jews and white European Jews. Modern Judaism is a religion and not a race. Modern Jews are not the ethnic descendants of Abraham, but a mixture of all races. The ancient Hebrew Jews were the children of Abraham. The Levitical priests kept a divine genealogy in the Temple to verify who was and was not descended from Abraham. In addition, the New Testament defines a Jews as one who believes in Jesus Christ and is circumcised in the heart, not in the flesh. Rom.2:28,29 and Gal.3:28,29. Under the New Covenant in Jesus, a Jew is one who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah. Under the dead old covenant, a Jew was one who was descended from Abraham and the twelve tribes.

To: Andy Thomas who wrote (10567)	5/30/1999 8:54:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 17770

Andy, There are good and bad in all people. Sometimes those working for the their concept of the "greater good" are more successful than those working for their version of the "greater good". I don't think anyone intentionally tries to institute or formalize policies that would be detrimental to "their" people or society. It's just too bad the same who don't have the same consideration for those who aren't their people.... those who get in the way of their version of the "greater good". That is what I classify as the unique role that the US plays in the world today. We are attempting to become a progressive multi-ethnic society whose concept of the "greater good" cannot be narrowed to that which specifically favoring one ethnic group or class (yeah, I have no delusions as to our current state of perfection). So while your comments are controversial with regard to Jews or Israel, all you are identifying are the same nationalist tendencies that have provided human beings some semblance of identity and familiarity since we first united into hunting clans. Regards, Ron