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To: Grainne who wrote (38671)	5/30/1999 11:41:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

The Southern Confederation attempted outright secession from the USA. That would most certainly be a loss of territory, analogous to an autonomous Kosovo reducing the square mileage of national Serbia. Does that sound right?

To: Grainne who wrote (38671)	5/31/1999 1:31:00 AM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 108807

It was the loss of part of the nation. Just like Serbia losing Kosovo.

To: Grainne who wrote (38671)	5/31/1999 5:58:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

The astounding thing about the South was that so many poor, slaveless whites were willing to die for an abstraction of states' rights -- which was a total hoax. States rights' had never been safer. Slavery was protected by Dred Scott, and the original compromise 13th amendment would have locked slavery protection into the constitution if the South had shown any foresight and patience. It is almost impossible to account for the behavior of Southern politicians -- except mass insanity and brain washing. For many years free speech had been impossible in the South and the country was plunging into the disaster that eventually came. Everyone was wrong. Lincoln was a minority president and was pledged not to mess with slavery. The South provoked the war and forced Lincoln into resistance to preserve the union which was his only objective -- as he said many times. Desperation and federal defeats turned him into a hero for mankind.