Your profile says that you are age 40-45 a "director", with a masters degree yet you post like Otis, the drunk from Mayberry, after a Saturday night, 3 sheets to the wind, bender. This is not meant as a slam, just a fact, I find it very difficult to follow what your saying as you start jumping all over the place, but i'll do me best to go through it. If this is because English isn't your first language, well, too damn bad, cuz English rulez on the net.(at least until China gets more wired, say 15 years from now, and I still ain't going to learn Mandarin)
I know too little to argue with you about technicalities of this game. Definitely I wouldn't know a first thing about listings on Nasdaq.
No problem there. But how about instead of opening your trap and posting like you know something, you just be quite next time. Did you ever stop to think that maybe someone even less savvy than you might be persuaded by you talking about something you know nothing about?
I only assume that you are giving me a full picture of the procedures, not just parts selected to support allegations against Ziasun.
Well you know, you could take some time out from walking the dog on the beach and spend it doing some research on your own instead of just depending on what ZSUN, or your broker or anyone on these boards tell you. Feel free to look at more than the links I gave on the SEC and NASD sites, you might just mess around and learn something.
Look Mark! I've heard all those allegations against zsun hundreds of times.
My names not Mark, I thought I made this clear to you yesterday, Rube, or is it Patsy? Your going to hear allegations against this company hundreds of more times until they start coming up with some answers.
I told you before: most of the investors out there are like me, they want to follow a credible source of recommendation. CREDIBLE is a key word.
Anyone that is advising you to invest in OTC:BB stocks is not credible, period. It scares me that most of the investors are like you, because you won't wise up until it's too late, and probably not even then. Eh, what are ya gonna do.
Your argument that any company could be discredited like ZSUN is laughable. You are correct that no company is perfect, but few are as imperfect as ZSUN, and few good companies target naieve new investors like yourself. In fact most good companies don't give 50k shares, valued at between $250k-1,000k(or 5-20% of the company assets) to a tout sheet to pump their stock. Most companies would spend the money on growing the business, and then the stock takes care of itself.(you'll learn this, ony if you ever quit investing in penny stocks, until then it will seem like SOP)
They know and comply with their reporting obligations.
Example? What are their obligations?
I don't believe that it is reasonable to expect all the company's commerially sensitive information to be volunteered.
Again, example? What am I asking for that is commercially sensitive? It all has to get filed if they ever do a filing. The fact that you and other longs are not very troubled by their failure to disclose the purchase price of OIA is frankly shocking to me.
They must be monitoring this board. They know all the allgations. So do the investors, including the INSTITUTIONAL investors. Are all of them dummies? Where is that strength behind Ziasun coming from?
Damn right they monitor this board, they've even posted to it. You'd think instead of giving away tens of thousands of shares of stock to pump the price they'd either issue a press release or come on here and have a dialog with the shorts and longs, going over negative contentions point by point, that would do more to move the price than some tout sheet. No institution buys OTC:BB non-reporting stocks, period, write it on the chalkboard 100 times. Please don't try that Thomson thing on me, please go and read what it is and how it comes by it's numbers. You want to know how this thing goes up? They sell it to people like you that don't know your a$$ from a hole in the ground when it comes to the market. When I say they, I talk of Amber, or whatever their name is now, and other overseas brokerages with lax reporting standards, that work for the big money guys that are really behind all this. Just to get a move started they do some forced buy ins of people that are short the stock, that looks good on Thomson and the charts and all the idiots pile on.
The bottom line is that there is a huge short position still remaining to be covered. ZSUN is now @ 200% of your target price - $17 presplit.
As Auric would say, "you don't geddit do ya?" Most of this huge short position gets covered at $0. People that short OTC:BB and don't cover when they melt from $35 to $12 are not going to cover when they go back up. They're here until it trades on the pink sheets. Please show me where I ever gave a target price for this stock. This is just another fantasy that Francoise plucked out of thin air, but your all to willing to accept it as gospel. What I have done is show that if you value it the same as legitimate companies in the same fields it belongs around $2.50 tops. As far as there being a huge short position, source please? I have no doubt there is, any POS stock like this has a big short position but where besides Francoise telling you it's so, can you substantiate this?
Who is shorting? It must be a financial power, consisting of many people, complex financial structure, contracts and deals to be honoured, possibly subsequent deals and contracts entered into on the presumption of a certain level of success on shorting ZSUN.
All of a sudden you go from sounding like tweedle dumb, to tweedle lawyer. Like I posted above, it's not rookies like you that are shorting this, it's people that have seen dozens if not hundreds of these type of rigs come and go, and have seen tens of thousands of people like you go from high on the hog to grovelling on 60 Minutes about how you got ripped off. History repeats.
Could it be that you have a contractual power not to let your employers close their short position? Why else would they have missed the $12 level (100% profit, after all). How complex is your deal with the shorters? Disclose this much, unless it is a cpmmercially sensitive information. Do I hear you saying that you have no obligation to disclose?
Huh. Can the lawyer wannabe talk. If your saying I work for someone that is short this stock then first of all come out and say it, 2nd of all how would I have "contractual power" not to let my bosses close their shorts? Could you try to sound smarter and instead look dumber, huh, hmmm, would that be possible?
As far as my deal with the shorters, I imagine if I were ever to run into these guys somewhere, they might buy the first round, though they are not obligated to do so. I work for no one but myself. I do not receive any compensation or whatever the cool beans lawyer speak way of putting it would be. I am not under any obligation to disclose a damn thing, though I ocassionally do when i'm feeling frisky.
Please get some game before coming on here and trying to post me up, i'll smack that weak stuff out of the air everytime.(NBA it's fantastic)
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