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To: Artslaw who wrote (5894)6/2/1999 4:28:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Steve,

I suspected the information to be less than accurate, but I wanted to hear it from somebody who is in the know.

My training stopped somewhere around Ohm's law.

Ausdauer



To: Artslaw who wrote (5894)6/2/1999 5:55:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Steve,

Just one other question. Is it possible to have a flash memory design where the configuration of the layers of the wafer and the thickness of the oxide layer allow for both non-volatile memory and logic circuits? Would such a process be feasible, yet practical from a cost perspective? Could one program the logic needed so as to eliminate the need for a controller chip altogether in a product such as CF or MMC? The MMC cards that I own seem so thin so as to contain only memory, but I believe they have the same functionality as CF, just in a tighter package.

If this is a totally illogical question then just chalk it up to my known handicap..."technologically challenged". A technical ninkompoop.

Ausdauer



To: Artslaw who wrote (5894)6/2/1999 6:05:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
Steve and Thread,

Mosel Vitelic enters the flash market...
(and enjoys continued success with their world-class Chardonnay)

"Flash is the second-largest memory-chip market, and there is plenty of room for newcomers," said Mike Shamshirian, marketing manager for Mosel Vitelic, which is based in Hsinchu, Taiwan and operates U.S. sales offices here. Total sales for flash chips are growing rapidly and may triple to $7 billion by 2002, Shamshirian said.

eet.com

Ausdauer



To: Artslaw who wrote (5894)6/2/1999 6:13:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Steve,

One last post. I guess I remember reading or hearing Dr. Harari mentioning the proposed geometries for future fabrication at UMC and this is the article from January. Thanks again for the clarification. It just didn't sound right to me.

eetimes.com

I am thinking about going back to college and starting off in a new career track in semiconductor design. This stuff is pretty exciting to read about even if only 2 or 3% is able to penetrate my super-thick oxide cranium.

Aus



To: Artslaw who wrote (5894)6/3/1999 3:04:00 AM
From: Derek C.  Respond to of 60323
 
Steven,

I believe that the article is talking about "erase oxide" thickness. This thickness for AMD and Intel type of NOR flash memories are below 100 Angstrom.

Also AMD produces NOR Flash memory. Recently it has been working on a Ultra NAND Flash. They have not been able to deliver production worthy product to date.
Intel has been talking about StrataFlash for a long time. They have not been able to produce this product in mass quantities.

SSTI does have an interesting technology but they are two generations beyond everybody else.

Toshiba and Samsung produce NAND flash technologies but they do not have Multi-Level-Cell technology which allow storing high capacity Flash.

Cheers,

Derek