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To: MNI who wrote (11091)	6/3/1999 12:50:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

I understand that to be born in Germany does not guarantee German citizenship. Is this true and when did this law take place?

To: MNI who wrote (11091)	6/4/1999 4:27:00 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

OK MNI... want to play around, huh? I see the kind of guy you're so I'll have to cure you the ''tough way''! Here's the medecine... germanyalert.com I seem to remember you told Neocon that most Jews flew out of Spain during the Spanish Reconquista/Inquisition, only to find a shelter in.... Serbia?! What a joke! The country that hosted most Jews in the XVIth and XVIIth centuries is the Netherlands (Baruch Spinoza, for instance), that is the Protestant cities belonging to the Lower Countries who successfully repelled the Spain Inquisition in what was known as the Spanish Lower Countries: Belgium, for that matter, was less successful and came under the yoke of the Duke of Parma, special envoy of King of Spain Philip II. The Inquisition enforced in Belgium (ie Antwerp, Brussels, Bruges, Ghent) was even more brutal than the original Spanish one! That's why today Belgium is officially Catholic whereas the Netherlands --thanks to the fierce resistance of Amsterdam and Utrecht-- are Calvinist. You blurted out: Anyway it seems to be more difficult to be awarded with the Turkish citizenship when you are a German living in Istanbul. Please notice, I didn't want to shoot anyone with words, so also I couldn't shoot myself into my own foot. Also I am less convinced of the German society than you must suspect from my previous letter. But it was definitely wrong when you tried to convince people with no kowledge of our situation that europeans/germans have no access to ethnical/cultural diversity whatsoever. So, MNI, is it that nowadays Turkey has become the yardstick by which Germany measures democracy? If Germans and, in a broader scope, Europeans use Turkish institutions as their democratic bench mark then why don't they get lumped together? Don't sermonize them! After all, recalling the outrages perpetrated by the Germans (and their European collaborators) against several cultural minorities sixty years ago should help Europeans to curb their humanitarian pretense.... In short, as I put it previously, if the French were capable of reconciling with Nazi Germany, why is it that today Europe can't hold out a welcoming hand to Turkey? As far as a ''mere access to ethnical/cultural diversity'' goes, --thanks be to God! Germans and Europeans as a general rule do have such an opportunity, indeed. However, it's essentially a by-product of the imported American culture: Hollywood enjoys an approx. 75% market share in Europe's movie theatre programming and most of the TV series come from the US as well. Colombo, Dallas, Cosby show and actors Denzel Washington, Antonio Banderas, Keanu Reeves and Jackie Chan are all too familiar to Europeans --thanks Uncle Sam! BTW, did you ever see a black or a Turkish guy in German cop-series ''Inspector Derrick''? Oh! sure: the usual shoplifter.... Subtly yours, Gustave.