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To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (60372)6/3/1999 12:46:00 PM
From: kapkan4u  Respond to of 1571893
 
<Tad - re: This is important, because while a lot of people make money off Intel, they are all probably pretty nervous about their position. On the other hand, the vendors who are working with AMD are keenly interested in seeing it succeed. As are, I believe, many of the OEMs. Self-interest is a powerful motivator. - Tad LaFountain>

Tad,

You make a very important point. It seems that the lack of good will toward Intel can be a deciding factor in the success or failure of Intel's Rambus initiatives.

Thanks for your posts.

Kap.



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (60372)6/3/1999 12:55:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Respond to of 1571893
 
RE:"If anything, the question is how long the K-7's
leadership position is likely to last. That's certainly one big differ"...

I really see it as a question of how well AMD can produce K7s, related chips and peripherals. The speed of the K7 design is pretty much a given. Also a given that the K7 will give AMD a leap ahead of Intel.
Will AMD be able to seize the opportunity, that is the question.
Jim



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (60372)6/3/1999 1:08:00 PM
From: Joey Smith  Respond to of 1571893
 
re:Now, I understand that the initial boards and chipsets
for the K-7 are going to be supplied by AMD. But it is readily apparent that right
behind the rollout will be suitable third-party support for the chip.


Hummm. You wish to stake your reputation on this???? I think you'll be in for a big, negative surprise.

joey




To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (60372)6/3/1999 1:09:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Respond to of 1571893
 
Tad - RE: "If anything, the question is how long the K-7's leadership position is likely to last."

If the K7's performance meets the hype, it should stay in front, unless everything becomes SSE enhanced.

"However, I believe that the second difference is even more important. Due to the abject failure of the K-5, there was no infrastructure support for the K-6 when it was introduced. The MB and chipset vendors had adopted a "show me" attitude towards the K-6. But as it became apparent that the part was carving out a respectable slice of the market and as Intel became even more of a competitor to such vendors, many of them have allied themselves with AMD. Now, I understand that the initial boards and chipsets for the K-7 are going to be supplied by AMD. But it is readily apparent that right behind the rollout will be suitable third-party support for the chip."

I don't know if there were any chipset companies at the K6's launch who proclaimed they would make chipsets. This time, it will be AMD initially, but Via says they will be ready about a month after that and Ali says before the end of the year.

As far as motherboards, Gigabyte has announced a K7 motherboard, and according to news websites from Japan, FIC and Asus will also make K7 motherboards.

Go to aceshardware.com for K7 motherboard info translated from those Japanese sites.

*Update* - I mis-read your initial post to say you didn't know if there will be third-party support. So you can ignore the above sentences.

I still believe, assuming the K7's performance meets the hype, the thing that could hurt the K7 is AMD's ability to transfer Austin to .18 and Dresden's ramp up.



To: A. A. LaFountain III who wrote (60372)6/3/1999 1:30:00 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571893
 
Re: "Due to the abject failure of the K-5, there was no infrastructure support for the K-6 when it was introduced. The MB and chipset vendors had adopted a "show me" attitude towards the K-6. "

The K6 stepped right into existing Socket7 Motherboards. The support was fully in place from the getgo. Some MBs need bios upgrades but that's all.

EP