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To: makin_dough99 who wrote (1107)	6/4/1999 2:22:00 PM
From: Mr. Jens Tingleff	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1834

Glen lets focus on the subject rather than the posters :-) <eom>

To: makin_dough99 who wrote (1107)	6/4/1999 6:16:00 PM
From: GlenRP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1834

OK let me clear a few things up. First I apologize to this board if I started a pissing contest. One of the things that I have enjoyed about this board is the fact that we stick to research and don't resort to petty bickering. I will apologize to Presence and Frick for the tone of my response as I am always willing to listen to new ideas and opinions. I appreciate your willingness to advise people with your knowledge. I know nothing of you or Frick and question the timing and motive of your post. I will refrain from any further outbursts in an effort to maintain the quality of the thread here. I will also do some further research on the topic of discussion. I do however wonder about the manner in which you choose to advise. Jamming a stick in ones eye may get a message across although I suspect that there are better ways. To clarify my position about your opinion I do not day trade although I have considered it and it has some merit. I choose not to. I am invested in this company long term and that is my focus. As for thirty two years I am sure you learned something but what works for you may not be what I choose. The company and counsel feels that if we call enough certificates it will be beneficial to them. That for now is enough for me. As for missing a price spike that is ok it won't be the first. As for trading my certificates back in it is only a two day turn around and that works for me. The down time is minimal. I will respect your opinion and ask that you respect ours. I request that we keep this board as clean as possible although I know that with this many people and new ones coming in all the time differences will arise. AGAIN I APOLIGIZE FOR MY KNEE JERK REACTION. As for the certificate issue I see this warrants further investigation although nothing has changed my position. The inconvienance is minor and I am here for the long hall. Thank you for your observations and in the future I will try harder to control my Irish temper. Sincerely Glen

To: makin_dough99 who wrote (1107)	6/5/1999 10:21:00 AM
From: paper man	Respond to of 1834

Presence. thanks for being here. lets just relax. we shareholders have been here a long time and deserve to call our certs if we choose so. And frankly, we dont need to be chastised over limited views as your view has is based on a couple practicallities. this morning, in last several posts, i have tried to offer all the reasons other than yours for why we are doing what we are. You do not have to participate. the subscribers of penny stock newletter should not participate. becuase anything they bought yesterday of which the MM went natuarally short ( in the .45s printing bids to balance), will have to be covered when they go to sell. (mm never fulfilled, figuring he would wake them back lower) Presence.... there are so many negative scenarios that surroung BB stocks and cahs accounts that it is hard to set a fine line of whos opinion is right or wrong. Frankly, think the MMs got slammed, and now its who plays better poker. good luck, i never fold