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To: jlallen who wrote (51934)	6/5/1999 11:18:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 67261

I will elaborate shortly, as I catch up...

To: jlallen who wrote (51934)	6/6/1999 12:35:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 67261

First things first: solo.abac.com

To: jlallen who wrote (51934)	6/6/1999 12:47:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 67261

I speak, of course, as one who is uncommitted at this point, but I will continue to speak in Christian terms. Sin is so heinous that Man could not be rescued unless Christ paid for our sins, and even then, it is necessary to accept and hold tightly to the gift. According to Catholics, and some Orthodox, even then one has to be purified in Purgatory, one cannot get off scott free...On the other hand, the salvation of Man is so important that "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son". We should hate sin, but desire the conversion and salvation of the sinner. We should punish criminal behavior, but also leave room for mercy and rehabilitation. As a practical matter, we must judge, and the magistracy must especially render judgment. But there should always be a part of us that desires that no one be lost for good...

To: jlallen who wrote (51934)	6/6/1999 1:37:00 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 67261

More enlightenment, in reference to the philosophical post: Karl Jaspers had an interesting way of framing the problem. We encounter Being as something that is beyond our ability to fully rationalize, but that nevertheless reveals itself to us in some degree. We are left with reason to orient ourselves, and to create a public forum to share our encounters with Being. But reason can only reflect aspects of the encounter, and is forever trying to glean something about what lies beyond the horizon of consciousness. For Jaspers, the great philosophers can help us to come to terms with our deep yearnings to reach beyond the limitations of reason, and can afford us useful information about what can be gleaned, information that can help us to reason and act more authentically as human beings...