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2266 Where one has a right to enslave oneself could be debated, but IMO the best praTimF-10/6/2008
2265Or anything I said, for that matter. He's just proving again that he can copOeconomicus-10/6/2008
2264Tim....here is a wikipedia article on locke and slavery. en.wikipedia.org exerpc.hinton-10/6/2008
2263 Again its not a binary thing. They are not totally part of our society, butTimF-10/6/2008
2262. are you willing to say poor illegal immigrants living and working in americac.hinton-10/6/2008
2261If the employee is not a slave, and you treat him as an animal or an object, thaTimF-10/6/2008
2260 "Take them away and society crumbles", true or not, doesn't implTimF-10/6/2008
2259you can treat an employee "as if they were an animal...or object".....c.hinton-10/6/2008
2258Its not a semantic difference ... the only time it might be as you say is in thc.hinton-10/6/2008
2257 Objects can also be involved in the day to day functioning of society. It doeTimF-10/6/2008
2256 Its a semantic difference on the meaning of being part of society. And no,TimF-10/6/2008
2255Tim ,slaves are involved in the day to day functioning of society...they dont bec.hinton-10/6/2008
2254Tim ...its hard to see it being only semantic diference...you have stated slavesc.hinton-10/6/2008
2253In Defense of Speculators and Short-Sellers By Amit Ghate Everywhere today govTimF-10/6/2008
2252 Did you miss my "except I suspect this is almost entirely a semantic issuTimF-10/6/2008
2251I am sure you think the same about me ...but at least i am not clinging desperatc.hinton-10/6/2008
2250 I'd say the same about you, to think they where part of society, except I TimF-10/6/2008
2249<I> slaves are part of society....whole societies have been based on slaveTimF-10/6/2008
2248 And what you are worth would include (if your a homeowner) what you could get fTimF-10/6/2008
2247tim you must live in a fantasy land to believe that slaves were not part of socc.hinton-10/6/2008
2246 Nothing in that Locke quote amounts to a direct argument against anything I saTimF-10/6/2008
2245slaves are part of society....whole societies have been based on slavery..... pc.hinton-10/6/2008
2244when asking for a loan you put down what you are worth ....not what you might bec.hinton-10/6/2008
2243not according to Locke....his own words. "Sect. 22. THE natural liberty ofc.hinton-10/6/2008
2242 The best price offered, isn't the same as the best price immediately offerTimF-10/6/2008
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