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The 2nd Amendment-- The Facts........

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7467	"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason	ManyMoose	5	1/17/2012
7466	These bad laws are promulgated by people who don't know what they're tal	ManyMoose	1	1/17/2012
7465	Here's a bit of the dissent: The Breyer dissent also objected to the "	d[-_-]b	1	1/17/2012
7464	As the court determined those others are simply wrong - I can find example afte	Elmer Phud	1	1/17/2012
7463	Yes - those four justices are extremely difficult to understand. The right to b	d[-_-]b	-	1/17/2012
7462	Well that certainly is one side of the debate. Others differ. As the court det	d[-_-]b	2	1/17/2012
7461	What exactly is your point - do you think order of the rights has meaning? I	Elmer Phud	1	1/17/2012
7460	I am addressing an argument made by gun control advocates who claim the right to	d[-_-]b	1	1/17/2012
7459	It established "one,example context" not all nor did it limit the oper	Elmer Phud	-	1/17/2012
7458	They deal with different subjects - speech, arms, due process. Arms/militia are	d[-_-]b	2	1/17/2012
7457	Was the right extended or were these just classified as "speech" - I b	Elmer Phud	1	1/17/2012
7456	What makes you think the 1st (or any right) is absolute? Poor choice of words o	Elmer Phud	-	1/17/2012
7455	One could argue that it established context. It established "one,example c	d[-_-]b	-	1/17/2012
7454	The first Amendment was extended to include Radio, Television, the automated pri	d[-_-]b	1	1/17/2012
7453	if the right is so absolute, why wasn't it included in the 1st amendment alo	d[-_-]b	1	1/17/2012
7452	<I> I don't remember reading about any debate about protecting speech	TimF	-	1/17/2012
7451	tim For example would artillery be counted (modern 155s? how about revolutio	Elmer Phud	-	1/17/2012
7450	<I> When the constitution was written militia meant every able bodied man	TimF	-	1/17/2012
7449	One is simply that the right is only a right of militia members. When the const	HPilot	2	1/17/2012
7448	The first one is the reason. Back then well regulated meant copious, not ruled b	HPilot	2	1/17/2012
7447	1 - One is simply that the right is only a right of militia members. The probl	Elmer Phud	-	1/17/2012
7446	I think it should include more advanced weapons. But even on that point there i	TimF	-	1/17/2012
7445	To me, the line in the sand is the important demarcation on this issue. Machin	ManyMoose	-	1/17/2012
7444	<I> Then why is the first one there? If the second is clear and unambiguo	TimF	-	1/17/2012
7443	That's the best argument for limiting 2nd amendment rights that I can think	Elmer Phud	1	1/17/2012

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