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Strategies & Market Trends
Thai Funds
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I'm short on both the Thai Fund (TTF) and the Thai Capital Fund (TC).
As of Friday, these closed end mutual funds were trading at more than 60% of net asset value. Typically closed end funds trade at a slight discount to NAV. The Thai market has been tanking the past couple months and the price of both funds has dropped a lot but still these two funds have the highest premiums of any closed ends.

My thinking is that over the next three to six months we'll see a gradual narrowing of the premium while the NAV will be volatile because of variations in the baht and Thai stock market but the NAV probably won't rise much. As investors realize the depth of the Thai economic problems, they will hopefully realize that the premium to NAV is not justified because Thailand will be mired in financial/ economic difficulty for a 18-36 month period. As the premium drops, I'll make more money - this is a great way to short the Thai market (and baht) because you can profit even if it doesn't go down or even if it rises a bit.

Anyone care to discuss? Any views on why investors bid these funds to such high premiums? Any contrary opinions on TC and TTF. Any difficulties in finding stock to short? Anyone with previous experience shorting single-country closed end funds?

John Rideout
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107 John: At the moment I don't plan to short MF because (1) it's not shorpeter michaelson-9/5/1998
106 Peter: I understand from the WEBS thread you closed out your MF-EWM position oPolartee-9/5/1998
105 John: The MF/EWM premium spread has been fibrillating between 50% and 30% for peter michaelson-5/22/1998
104 Big rally in MF to 7 1/8 yesterday for a 45% premium. It's down a 1/4 todayPolartee-5/22/1998
103 John: A mouthful, but I'll take on the MF/EWM piece. The spread in premiupeter michaelson-5/19/1998
102 Sorry I haven't kept this thread more up to date...very busy with everythinPolartee-5/19/1998
101 Alan: Today I exchanged my FAK for KF long against the ADR shorts. For a briepeter michaelson-4/1/1998
100 Alan - The spread between TTF and TC premiums hit 8% and I'm trying to unpeter michaelson-3/16/1998
99 For charts and news, try: quote.yahoo.com It gives a 1 year chart as the defaPolartee-3/12/1998
98 Alan et al: Thai Fund just announced that their NAV has been under-stated by apeter michaelson-3/12/1998
97 Hi, Would anyone kindly give some information of Thai stocks' hiJames Song-3/12/1998
96 John: Good to hear from you. The last sentence in this article: biz.yahoo.peter michaelson-3/3/1998
95 Where did you hear that the Korean government is committed to allowing 100% forPolartee-3/3/1998
94 I am also short one of the ADRs - SKM. I thought about shorting all 3, but kEPalan lewis-3/2/1998
93 Alan: On another topic, what are your thoughts re the Korea ADR's. I calcpeter michaelson-3/2/1998
92 Alan: Not rambling at all. Thanks for all the information. I'll wait untpeter michaelson-2/28/1998
91 Peter, You asked about my experience. I've been investing most of my assalan lewis-2/27/1998
90 Alan: Thanks for your posting. I look forward to this conversation. Overall,peter michaelson-2/27/1998
89 Do I read your last posting to mean that you are hedging your TTF short with a alan lewis-2/25/1998
88 Hi John: Well, I'm fascinated by the goings-on of TTF. Wish it were possipeter michaelson-2/22/1998
87 Not dead. Just hibernating. I don't know the answer to your question but tPolartee-2/22/1998
86 HELLLOOOOOOOOO. IS ANYBODY OUT THERE? TTF moved 10% plus in the last tow dayspeter michaelson-2/21/1998
85 >>Anyway, I hope I haven't entered the proverbial bear market trap byHeretic-2/4/1998
84 John, Reed has already given you the only source I know for Thai stock quotes,Michael-2/3/1998
83 John: Stock Exchange of Thailand set.or.th Stock Exchange of Thailand - ListeHeretic-2/3/1998
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