HI Barry : Refunds, well the normal way and fair way it goes is like this, you get a discount buying a year..I don't know how ALO or if they do this..I can fnd out and would if I had reason too. But this will do..local ISP, (as a avg) charge 25 per month, by the month or 19.95 if you pay for a year ( say $20 ) so your saving $5 a month with a yearly rate..all of them will let you cancel ( all I'v seen anyway ), now you get paid back or credit back to you card, for the unused time..how ever if you got the $5 discount, and you cancel say in 3 months, you pay for the 3 months at the regular monthly rate..or any time pior to the year, cancel service should charge you the monthly rate and I have no problem with that. so say I cancel after 6 mo..I don't expect them to pro rate it, but to charge me 25x6 or $150, and refund the rest..$90..thats fair enough..after all I'm pulling out early..and ever Local ISP I'v found is more than willing to do it that way. Now with hoovers there was a comunacation problem, I canceled but the bill kept coming, hmmm..3 mo the bill came..that was enough for me..I called..and said hey I canceled 3 mo ago..what's happening, they were real nice and my next visa showed the credit for the 3 mo..now mind you once I canceled I did not use the service.. AOL users tring to cancel or wanting a refund, must stop using the service ( I'm not being a spokes man here for AOL )..but the fact is they can show when you used it last, and can stand on that even if it was the one and only time you could get on out of a hundred tries..if you got on you used it..and they will argue that point..even if it's not fair. So if you want off, don't use it at all, and they will have to refund from the portion from the last time you used it, you can make them do that, or make them wish they had have..;-) But the attitude they took "no Refunds" ..could give you a valid reason to use. ( providing you have requested off, "tape it" ) as you can argue back to the point of the day he said no refunds, so what were you to do..that will be to the judge in your area, I already know I would win..as I know my judge..not as a favor mind you, I know how he sees things..some other judge may see it another way..all I would have to do is prove I requested off, from that point on, and withy the no refund statment from Steve my service if I got any would be free..as a gratitude of my being understanding..and my waiting for the refund..I could insist I had the right to use..but that's not my style..if I requested refund..that would be that..no game..give me my money back and I want it now. JIM |