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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (310614)10/23/2002 6:42:11 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
"Tommie Wat?-me-Lie?", Prince of Thread Lies ignores what's as plain as the nose on his face. Ignores what everyone can read for themselves. (Note even his latest 'Dukakis lie', where he now claims he was REALLY referring to Dukakis, not Gore... but I have posted his exact words and link to it below... wherein he refers to GORE, not Dukakis. Any fool can see, he can't EVEN REMEMBER HIS LIES ANYMORE, HE'S TOLD SO MANY:) He just changes his lies at whim, and hopes everyone here just forgets to lookup the original links!

What a Rube, what a Prince of Liars:

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Tommie's Lies explained:
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Tommie, regarding your repeated rabble-rousing claim that: "Fact: President Bush won the popular vote by over 6 million." followed by: "That is true. Dukaka was defeated by over 6 million in the popular vote."

>>> Ah, your childish game is EXPOSED! We were talking about Bush II (the whole thread was talking about Bush II) and you switched to Bush I without telling anyone.

>>> Gee, aren't you just so CUTE... all this wasted time because you switched the subject without telling anyone.

>>> (But if you'll look further below, you see that I referenced your original claim and, SURPRISE!, you said Gore, not Dukakis: YOU ARE LYING AGAIN!)

Regarding your statement: "Fact: Certified Loser gore is called certified loser gore." and your false claim that I denied Gore's certified loss, you are TOTALLY FULL OF BULL!

>>> Never have I claimed that Bush II was NOT the election winner certified by the Electoral College. Any claim you make to the contrary is A BIG FAT LIE THAT YOU WILL BE FOREVER UNABLE TO PROVE! ('Cause it just ain't so, LIAR!)

>>> What I DID SAY was that you claimed Bush II won with - to use your exact words - a "16 million population vote" margin.

>>> This is PSYCHOTIC, GIN-DRENCHED TOMMIE'S PREEMINENT RECENT LIE.

>>> As the careful reader will note there ain't no such thing as a 'population vote'... but there IS a 'popular vote' which was won by Gore by over 1/2 million VOTES OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED BY THE US GOVERNMENT.

>>> The question onery, lying Tommie REFUSED TO ANSWER WAS "WHAT IS A 'VOTE'? HOW IN BLUE BLAZES TO DO YOU DEFINE 'VOTE' TO COME UP WITH SUCH A WILD, HALUCINATORY CLAIM?"

>>> Rabble-rousing Liar that he is, Tommie - of course - refused to answer this simple question, though it was asked multiple times, over many days.

>>> (The Electoral College vote - which as everyone knows, determines the winner - was the narrowest of wins for Bush II after the Supremes issued their ruling regarding the Florida elector slate.)

>>> Clearly - as with his Bush II, Bush I flim-flam - Tommie is trying to pull some kind of a fast one... counting the population of counties and then pretending that population is the same thing as VOTES... which, of course, it ain't. A trick worthy of a third grader, which I'm afraid may be the mental level Tommie has been reduced to by his, er, life style, or, er, some other 'environmental influence'.

>>> Tommie's lies are now so egregious, so oft repeated and NEVER documented, so clearly delivered only for the purpose of rabble-rousing... that we can now safely anoint poor besotted Tommie with the title: "Prince of Lies on the Thread".

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Tommie's Lies Tracked, Documented, Linked, and Exposed:
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Lies? I'll show you some of Tommie's lies - which he now claims to not remember:

"well j-f-snitchy, It's official, President Bush won the popular vote by over 6 million. Certified Loser gore is called certified loser gore."

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"Yes and President Bush won and beat his loser opponent by over 6 million votes in the "popular vote" for electors."

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Another bald-faced Tommie lie:

"... I never wrote "16 million population votes"."

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(But here's Tommie posting his "16 million population vote" lie, one of about 50 times, LOL):

"...Gore - 127 million
Bush - 143 million
Populatiion Vote plurality of 16 million"

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[The careful reader will note in all of this that the 'population of counties' is not considered 'votes'.

Only votes are votes.

All these so-called statistics show is that in Bush-won counties... there were large numbers of people who didn't vote... and therefore, registered no votes. To discern which way they *would have* voted had they bothered to get off their sofas and go to the ballots would require a mindreader - which Tommie obviously *isn't - he still has problems with these simple statistics.]
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Another one of my posts to Tommie:

WHAT'S A "VOTE", POOR TOMMIE?

HOW ARE THEY MEASURED?

WHAT DO CRIME STATISTICS HAVE TO DO WITH CERTIFIED VOTES?

WHAT DOES THE SIZE OF A COUNTY... OR IT'S RAINFALL... OR NUMBER OF INHABITANTS WHO HAVE SILICON BREAST IMPLANTS, ETC. HAVE TO DO WITH CERTIFIED VOTES?

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Another post of mine putting Tommie's feet to the fire:

Yep. You 'been "habitually lying", I'm sure that's what you recall.

Like claiming that Bush "won the Presidency with a population vote margin of 16 million over Gore"... when any idiot knows:

1) There is no such thing as a 'population vote'.

2) Gore's *popular vote* margin over Bush was certified by the Government at + 540,540.

What a dodgy old rube you are... can't even remember your own lies anymore.

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Tommie lies yet again. He claimed that said "I say dirt could vote 6 and maybe 7 times"

>>> Note to Tommie! I never claimed dirt could vote, YOU did... and I never asked if it could vote "6 or 7 times".

>>> YOUR HALLUCINATION!

>>> I asked you only one question: Do you understand what the word 'vote' means?

>>> From your repeated posts claiming a "16 million 'population vote' victory for Bush, it is apparent you DON'T know what a 'vote' is.

>>> Sad, so sad, the dribble that emits forth from your fevered, gin-soaked brain....

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From another one of my posts:

I did fully explain the issue... in excruciating detail to him... over MULTIPLE POSTS... over SEVERAL DAYS.

If you want to back-trace what must be 30 or 40 posts to him on this issue, over a week or so, feel free.

But you may find it far easier to just browse to the link he provided to support his RIDICULOUS CLAIM THAT BUSH WON A "POPULATION VOTE" VICTORY OVER GORE BY "16 MILLION VOTES"... and read all that's on the Web site.

You will - of course - note that there is NO SUCH THING AS A "POPULATION VOTE" (the site lists things like 'crime statistics' and the net area of various counties, as the support for this joke.)

Other posters here have pointed out to the hallucinating Tommie that this is a joke... put forward to needle other, equally spurious arguments advanced by various Democratic partisans... but he either falls to understand what a 'vote' is... or else he just likes lying to people and raising hell.

As far as him asking anything of me... it's a fairly lameoid trick of his: he refuses - over a week or more - to answer MY PRIOR QUESTION to explain how any of this 'crime statistics' stuffs amounts to 'votes', then siezes upon my concatanation of his two ridiculous claims that 1) Bush won a "population vote" by 16 million, and 2) the square area (amount of 'dirt') in a county, and the crime statistics there, amount somehow to legal 'votes'....... I concatanated these ridiculous and unsupported premises into an understandable (and, I think funnier) shorthand for Tommie's fraudulent claims: that he wants to give the vote to 'dirt clods'.

He understands this fully, and pulls an old trick of his by referring only to 'dirt clods'... while refusing to explain or justify his original psychotic claim of a "16 million vote margin for Bush"... based upon crime statistics and the area of counties, and other brick-a-brack not directly related to election voting.

As I've pointed out: ONLY VOTES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CAST ARE COUNTED IN DECIDING ELECTIONS... PEOPLE WHO STAY HOME AND DON'T VOTE ARE NOT COUNTED AS 'VOTES'.

I'm sure you, Zero, have no problem understanding the word 'vote'.

This idiotic claim of his is so ridiculous that I'm sure you also understand why he has refused to answer my very first question:

<Tommie, what is a 'vote'.>

If you need further explanation of the fraud and FUD he is attempting to spread... just browse to the Web site he linked, and read the joke yourself.

(I particularly liked the part about 'crime statistics'!)

(Try to find THAT in the Constitution!)

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