SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext  
To: cnyndwllr who wrote (155941)1/11/2005 10:41:19 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (3) of 281500
 
Hi cnyndwllr; Re: "Well then, how do you label the voting public who confirm such leadership and hold no one accountable? "Stupid public syndrome?" "Sheep syndrome?" Surely there is some label that you'd find appropriate? After all it's not as though the stupidity of our current leadership hadn't become obvious over the last three years."

The only reason that Bush is in office today, given the mistakes he made in Iraq, is that the left wing of the Democratic party saw an opportunity to put a far left candidate into a "sure win" nomination for president. The far left was so certain that Bush would lose that they kept their beliefs in the face of all those polls showing Bush with a slight edge, and even now, many of them still believe that the election was stolen.

Sure the election was stolen. If the Democrats had come up with a candidate that wasn't a left wing senator from the most left leaning state in the country, they could have had a victory. Instead, they chose to gamble and lost.

If they'd chosen a moderate like Clinton, Bush would have lost.

The problem with your analysis (i.e. "stupid voting public") is that the decision to vote cannot be based on only a single facet of the choice between the candidates. And even with Iraq, note that Kerry never said that he'd pull out of the country. In that context, there was very little reason to vote for the man.

The mistake in Iraq was to believe that it would be easy. I already went through your posts from before the war and you did not expect us to be militarily defeated. You were arguing against an invasion on the basis of the morality of stealing their oil, not on the practicality. You're no smarter than Bush.

So when you call Bush and company fools for getting into Iraq, you should at least admit that back before the war you yourself were talking about how the war was all about oil and how immoral it was that Iraqi oil was going to be stolen by the US and pumped at $10 per barrel, for example: "Philosophical discussions aside, we certainly have the power to take the Iraqi oil and if we've learned anything about this administration, it's that if the ends justify the means then it's usually a go. Ed."
Message 18714479
Message 18205492
Message 18221432
Message 18221950
Message 18818315

Hey, here it is early 2005 and the price of oil is still quite high.

-- Carl
Report TOU ViolationShare This Post
 Public ReplyPrvt ReplyMark as Last ReadFilePrevious 10Next 10PreviousNext