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Politics : Evolution

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To: Greg or e who wrote (9424)11/4/2010 10:40:10 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) of 69300
 
“Everything that has a beginning, MUST have a CAUSE."

You have a major comprehension problem?? Go back and read this over and get up to speed, won’t you??

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OK. Now get down off your bow-legged Shetland pony and listen. Do you have your EARS open, at least?

Now let us make it very clear: You do not have a CLUE whether everything that has a beginning has a cause. You don’t know anything about whether or not everything does have a beginning or an end when it comes to ultimate questions. And neither does a single scientist living or dead. That is why we call ultimate questions…MYSTERIES.

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Scientists talk about eternity and infinity but nobody understands what this means or has any evidence of whether or not time or space ends or begins. You, at least, seem to believe (without one iota of evidence), that time is eternal. Time is certainly a part of our universe--and the beginning and the end are both obviously in question, aren't they?

Scientists deal with approximations of truth and it works very well within the limits of our observations and our measurements. But when it comes to ultimate questions of beginnings and ends and the puzzles of where time and space come from and where do they go--it is all surmise--very much as you imagine so much nonsense about your personalized superhero.

Having acknowledged our ignorance in questions of ultimate reach, we may yet use philosophy (not science) to argue the logical propositions that ensue from our premises. Whether or not we start with true premises or false premises, our Aristotelian logic can inform the probability of our conclusions.

That is why I gave you the choice to state whatever premise you liked between those under discussion. Do you believe that EVERYTHING had a beginning? Do you believe that some things have a beginning? Do you believe that some things don’t have an end? Go ahead…everyone can see I’m giving you an unheard of gift based on my knowledge that you cannot use logic from ANY starting premise to support your fabulous belief system of an imaginary being with imaginary powers.

You pretend that I deny your “everything that has a beginning, MUST have a CAUSE." But I am telling you straight to your pony’s face that I have no opinion on that issue when applied to ultimate questions such as time, space, universes, strings of universes, and what not.

And I am telling you that I will accept “EVERYTHING that has a beginning, MUST have a CAUSE." As a true premise for the sake of argument, seeing as it appears to be so important to you! So you’ve stepped in the cow pie again! I'm giving you a free premise. Now put another premise together (not a conditional and not a compound) and then draw a sufficient AND necessary conclusion that supports your imaginary invisible fellow in any way!!

Waiting. But I know you don’t have the integrity or the guts! So what I am waiting for is your misdirection and your ad hominems as you scamper to get back on your bow-legged pony. Now be good to yourself. You are apparently unwell…
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