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Microcap & Penny Stocks : PanAmerican BanCorp (PABN)
PABN 0.000010000.0%Mar 7 3:00 PM EST

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To: jhild who wrote (23640)1/22/1999 6:09:00 PM
From: Valkyrie  Read Replies (2) of 43774
 
jhild, i reject your proposal that i "distort" anything...i dont see the necessity of it...however, in fairness, if anyone within the sound of this post thinks that i do, (other than you and rosario) please bring it to my attention immediately, here, out in the open...

i plainly said to you that the reason that some of us get together behind the scenes, is so that we can discuss every issue without being bullied and ridiculed...as for what you suggest that i suggested...i never suggest anything...never...never ever...i very plainly say what is on my mind...no person ever needs to try to interpret it...your understanding of what ever it is that i say is up to you...you read what you want to read and take it as it suits you...there is never anything between my lines...it is there, or it simply is not there at all...

as for "dissent being tolerated"...completely unfounded...in my post last night, i invited anyone to post the texts of several emails that i have personally originated, that are dissent from hell...i said things that needed to be said...i still say things that need to be said...directly and to the point...within this group there are several rules, so to speak...anyone says whatever they think is appropriate, good or bad, and open any topic up for discussion...we are not blind...we are acutely aware of the problems, real and imagined, with this beginning company...we know exactly who said what, in the company name, and we know how much of it has come to pass, and how much of it has become a disapointment...the only thing that has not been tolerated is the breaking of trust...asking negative questions, discussing negative happenings, originating "unpopular" rhetoric, has nothing to do with it..."thinking for themselves", and every expression of these thinkings, has nothing to do with it...betraying those who believe in you has everything to do with it...of course, as this is not what you want to hear, you will not agree with this principle outloud, but in your heart, you can see the difference...the idea of "they dont like me anymore and they shut me out because i think for myself and i dont say what they want to hear and i ask questions they dont agree with", is a bunch of crap, and it is not anywhere near accurate...it is a freakin smokescreen that you cannot see through...you think what you wish...i choose to think that those who put their trust in you, should be able to count on you...no exceptions...if you can find where i have strayed from this belief, then please post it anywhere you wish for anyone to see...

no jhild...actually i dont want you to go away...i know how smart you are...i know how intuitive you are...and i do believe that you could be a valuable part of "this dialogue", if you would be...i have said to you many times that your insights and feelings about almost all that happens, (or doesnt happen), is accurate, and i have told you many times that much of what you say needs to be said...but i have told you again and again, that you just will not engage in a meaningful dialogue...you take something that is worthwhile, and you immediately make a weapon out of it...and you run it and anybody associated with it, into the ground...so, in the end, what you have to say becomes lost in the badgering that it becomes...no jhild...i have no design to exclude you, or anyone else...we have been through this many times, and i have told you again and again why i think you are so ineffective...it is because of how you treat people, not what you have to say...

please show where i have ever "intimidated" anyone for saying what they think...or excluded anyone for an opinion different from mine...dont waste your time, jhild, you cannot find it...you already know that i do not think it is ok to publish private information about people, or to send them threatening emails or pms...that you would say such a thing about me is silly, made up by you, and deserves no further comment...however, should you be able to show evidence of this kind of behavior by me, or evidence that i endorse use of these things, please do not hesitate to post your findings, in entirety, on every thread you can gain access to...

i will admit that i did attempt to telephone rosario, one time and one time only, by a telephone number that i saw...the reason was that i wanted to speak with him man to man about his behavior, and to see if i could reason with him...i gave my actual name, donald mcarthur, to the person who answered the phone...i dont think any reasonable person would consider this harassment, or at least that was not my intent...i never attempted to telephone him again...he knew who i was, and he knew my telephone number...

i think my personal values are evident to everyone...so do i think are yours...but you have a flair for the use of the kings english when you are perturbed...go back and read you own post, jhild...if you were any more transparant, you would be invisible...the way you hear things that are said to you is incredible, to say the least...

i have to go now jhild...hanibal and i are having a friend for dinner...
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