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To: ann angel who wrote (39727)6/8/1999 7:57:00 PM
From: Chuzzlewit  Respond to of 108807
 
Living proof that the war on drugs is lost ...

TTFN,
CTC



To: ann angel who wrote (39727)6/8/1999 8:29:00 PM
From: Bob Lao-Tse  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
To the group:

"The problem with an OPEN mind is there are no 'rights or wrongs',"

You know, reading this has caused me to come to look at the need that people exhibit for proselytizing in a different light. I had always thought that those who most need to convert others do so because they're threatened by the notion of those others being ethical and moral and happy without faith. Essentially that if we can do it without faith, then they've wasted all of that time and energy. Of course though, once they have that faith firmly embedded in their personality, they can't let go of it without serious repercussions, so they have to cling to it. This makes the non-believers that much more of a threat.

But I just thought of another explanation. I think it's possible that those who feel that we cannot live good and just lives without faith do so because they could not live good and just lives without faith. I'm thinking that the argument could be made that they are without any sort of internal ethical compass, so the only way that they can act in an ethical manner is to adopt someone else's rules and live under the imagined threat of punishment. They believe that we need that same set of rules because they've projected their lack onto us and feel that we too are without ethics if we are without faith.

And I would say that the behavior of the people on this thread is, in itself, a refutation of that view.

Just thinking,

-BLT



To: ann angel who wrote (39727)6/12/1999 3:09:00 PM
From: marcos  Respond to of 108807
 
Why a PM, Chr ... um, 'ann angel'? ... didn't like me lumping you in with the Jew-burners, eh? ..... well, fact is, i think you're one of 'em. Feel free to make any specific distinctions you wish.

So ya got "Kook-aid", good for you ... somehow i suspected you did, it sort of goes along with having a "problem with an OPEN mind".