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To: kash johal who wrote (61049)	6/8/1999 10:32:00 PM
From: fyo	Respond to of 1573678

Kash: This may explain the quickshrink parts. They have had problems with real 0.18 dixon and had to do the dumbshrink. Dixon was never supposed to be anything but a 'dumb-shrink'. The CuMine will be a 'real' .18mu part, using a 6 metal layer process (as opposed the the 5-layer process of the current .25mu and .18mu parts). --fyodor

To: kash johal who wrote (61049)	6/9/1999 12:06:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573678

Kash- <This may explain the quickshrink parts. They have had problems with real 0.18 dixon and had to do the dumbshrink.> This is absolutely wrong. See Elmer's earlier statement: Kash, when Intel introduced their .25u process the first product was a Pentium for laptops. The new process provided a power savings while still providing good although not earth shaking performance. This gave Intel a pilot product to use as a process monitor, gathering valuable data on the process before moving their flagship on to a new unproven process. I think the 400MHz "dumb shrink Dixon" is intended for exactly the same purpose. Intel has done this its last 3 process generations, for the exact reasons cited above. <Frankly the drop from 1.6V to 1.3V is no big deal, and one would have expected at least a 40% speed improvement in moving from 0.25 to 0.18. A 10% speed improvement is pretty poor IMHO.> OK Kash. I've been in the wrong business. I know what, let's you and me, Elmer, Yousef, Scumbria and Paul start our own outfit. I propose "Dumbshrinks Are Us" as a first crack at a name. What we will do is aquire any ol' core design, and just dumb shrink it down (only requires an algorithim that I'm sure Scumbria could handle for us by himself) and net 40% performance gains without the need for full blown design teams!!! Elmer and Yousef can handle process, Paul can handle packaging, marketing, and sales. I'll be the Boy. You can be the President! I never knew it was this easy. PB