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To: Don Martini who wrote (25762)	6/11/1999 4:55:00 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 39621

I think that if people are unwilling to defend the country they live in then that country has no obligation to treat them as rightfull, respectable citizens. The scriptures teach that unless the children of Israel were willing to fight to possess the promised land they would have gotten nothing. The Jehovah's Witnesses is a cult founded by Charles Taze Russell. As founder and president he called his own shots. He demanded that his followers call him a pastor even though he was never officially ordained. Under a court of law he was found guilty of perjury but swayed his sheep into believing he was enduring wrongfull persecution for the gospels sake. The truth is that he was a con, a liar, a blasphemer and an enemy of Jesus Christ. Till this day Jehovah Witnesses try to paint themselves as nice, polite Christians, as do the Mormons, but in reality they are just religious people in need of a real saviour. Sorry I have to be so blunt with you but if you had your way you would try to convert my loved ones to hate the truth and embrace a lie. Chris

To: Don Martini who wrote (25762)	6/11/1999 11:39:00 AM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

I know that those shooting at them didn't include a single Witness of Jehovah!!! If all the sects of Christendom took the same stand there would have been no war! There are no sects of "Christendom" as you like to call it. There is only Christ's church and antichrists with false witnesses. You take umbrage at anyone who actually lives the gospel you talk about!! No, I respect that, but only if one does not have a twelve piece band playing behind them. You know there is a good chance that had men like my dad not fought, all of your "family" would have been wiped off the face of the earth. SINCE it was not, God MUST have blessed you by using men who would fight for your family. So I would suggest you stand up and give HIM the praise rather than toot your horn. Christendom's savage bloodshed is an identical stench in the nostrils of God! So I guess you think that our country jumped into WWII just cause they got nothing better to do? And Korea? So I guess you become the all seeing because God SURELY would not use us to slow or stop world oppression would He? Or to save anyone? What I wonder is why you don't leave this country?? If your gov't is just a bunch of warmongers then YOU are denying your faith by paying them taxes and continuing to hold property here. Bye. It's also clear to me you don't really believe the Bible, DCF. You like being religious but your faith hasn't taught you not to hate. Yes prophet, thank you for clearing me up on that. Believe it or not, my dad did not hate the Germans, just as a lot of the German soldiers did not hate them. But he did hate what the German gov't was trying to do. I see on one of your posts or on your profile or somewhere that you had three chemical co. you used to own? Over time? So I guess all those taxes you paid over time went to the US war machine. Shame on you for paying to finance all that!! Hanging a Witness was a non-event in Texas during those years, DCF, so don't expect to find it in some paper's archives. And for my part, the crime was interesting but not unusual to hear about so I can't give you time and place, so you can decide if I made it up. Not sure if I have to care whether you made it up or not , but here is an interesting statement made by watchtower: Watchtower p.352, Jun 1, 1960 "As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise caution when dealing with God's foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God's cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God's enemies." So , I guess either way it is ok to hide truth from "enemies" huh? Course I suppose you have to decide yourself who God's enemies are, right? "To the dauntless soldiers of the 45th and 42nd Divisions of the U. S. Army who entered Dachau as liberators, not as conquerors" Wait a minute, first you call all "Christendom" bloody (whatever the term was I forget) then you use quotes that they were LIBERATORS?? Those LIBERATORS had to kill people to LIBERATE right? what is the deal? Do you consider that those doing the killing were looked down upon by the Jewish people over the world, and so they said "nope we are not leaving these camps cause you killed men to get us out"? "Christendom's mud" as you call it, saved many a person. you are pretty selective ...huh!! You know Don, there is one thing , I would prob. agree with you on. I think Christians(esp. in U.S.) have been spoiled by life and have been blinded to many a good verse, but I think God Almighty has allowed time for us to be making changes in our hearts. It all comes down to making the choice to do what the whole is built on : Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. I think when all mankind discovers that our neighbor is the whole of the world, only then can we determine to change. Do I hate? You bet. I hate even the garment spotted by the flesh. Jesus saves, Jesus saves.