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To: cyberdillo who wrote (25108)	6/11/1999 12:13:00 PM
From: yofal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213176

Anyone having problems with Raging Bull today - I signed on and it indicated 0 messages for the AAPL section... jus wonderin, emmell

To: cyberdillo who wrote (25108)	6/11/1999 1:36:00 PM
From: FruJu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213176

Larry Ellison has for a long time wanted to try and run around Microsoft's OS domination. Oracle announced earlier this year a DB product which essentially runs bare naked on the hardware - without an OS, and can serve up business applications (written in Java) to thin clients. My "out there" bet is that Oracle announces the porting of this to Apple's PowerPC platform, and goes heavily into league with Apple, cobranding and selling Apple's hardware bundled with Oracle's software to large businesses. Oracle gets a license to bundle Apple's universal motherboard in their own packaging, or else uses the iMac C2 with netboot and no hard disk as the thin client. Of course, what do I know :)

To: cyberdillo who wrote (25108)	6/13/1999 11:31:00 AM
From: Michael Feldstein	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213176

cyberdillo, the intimations on "Think Secret" are that Oracle will license Apple's new unified hardware architecture to make network computers. These machines could conceivably run either the Mac OS or some other OS that would be aimed at the enterprise market. While I have no idea whether the rumors are true, such a move would make sense for Apple. This way they could benefit from hardware clones by licensing only to a company that has virtually no natural overlap of customer base while also giving the Mac architecture over to a company that has vastly more credibility in the enterprise market. This would be a fantastic alternative to Don Crabb's suggestion that Jobs is getting ready to sell Apple. (As usual, Crabb has his head up his butt.) I'll say this much: I'm not sure how much financial sense it would make for Oracle to port 8i to the Mac, given Apple's low market share in servers even for small to medium size businesses, unless it were the first move in some larger game. Oracle-branded network computers built on the iMac architecture would fit the bill nicely.