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To: Patricia Walton who wrote (132413)6/11/1999 12:49:00 PM
From: D.J.Smyth  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
<<The people here will badmouth Dell like the devil and I will lead the pack>>

oh heck. Sam's got the wrong state. another firm is putting a chicken farm (free of tax) outside our city - will produce a ton of chickens a day. all that chicken poop, a few residents revolted, but when asked how much chicken the leader of the dissident group ate, he replied, "a ton, i like it a lot, but that's not the issue." turns out now the chicken farm is hiring some of those same dissidents. it's always something. Sam is a consistent dissident.

Sam is okay, but many know Sam Ferguson's posts. i don't recall ever reading a positive post from him. now, don't get upset Sam if you're reading this, i still like you.



To: Patricia Walton who wrote (132413)6/11/1999 1:09:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 176387
 
Patsy:Tell the guy there is nothing new or sinister about it,cities have to dish out incentives if they want to attract world class companies to their neighborhood.There is nothing 'welfarey' about it. Tell the guy that is the American Way, tell him also look at the broader picture.



To: Patricia Walton who wrote (132413)6/11/1999 1:36:00 PM
From: eddie foree  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
re:dell in nashville...but just think how much dell will help improve the city economy...payroll, image, publicity, etc...



To: Patricia Walton who wrote (132413)6/11/1999 3:50:00 PM
From: Greg H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 176387
 
Patsy, I saw much of the same in NM when INTC did a BIG expansion here. It will take lots of PR work on Dells part to keep this under control. They will need to get very involved in giving things to help the City. Intel gave the city of Rio Rancho a new High School. But it takes many little donations and the company sponsoring little things that touch many lives that make the difference. Hope Dell is up to this. Dell could learn much from the Intel experience in this area.

Best to you
Greg



To: Patricia Walton who wrote (132413)6/13/1999 3:20:00 AM
From: Keo  Respond to of 176387
 
The corporate deals cut with a community are a reflection of the local socio-political mileau..
In the business section of the NYTimes (on Monday, Tues or Wed of this week) there was an article about a city in Oregon that granted tax incentives to Intel ( I think it was intel; I'm just terrible with names when I'm reading for the overall concept)... BUT-- has dis-incentives if this company hires too many people!!!
The local municipality is very conscientious about growth -- and the local officials are truly representative of the local community!
So the deal is that for EACH employee OVER the 2,000 or so planned, the company has to pay a penalty of $X,000.00 per year to help fund the additional infrastructure costs that the city calculated it could not handle.
They obviously did their homework and figured out where the additional commerce revenues would be maximized and where there would be a burden. This is an ideal example of partnership. Not just city officials being overly impressed with the corporate lawyers, etc..
and saying 'yes' to whatever.
It's truly a win-win approach that calculates where the incentives work for both the host city and the new member of the community.

As Greg H. mentioned, there's the Rio Rancho-Intel expansion. I know people who benefited, others who could no longer afford to live there...
Dell made a point of donating to the Round Rock / Austin community (museum and schools, I think.. there were articles inthe NYTimes last January/Feb about it).. so I'd assume they'll make similar donations to the Nashville area. WHich, by the way, was expanding tremendously exactly one year ago.. (off the freeway south of Nashville towards Franklin, there's a LOT of building - malls - - it was an expansion that I found kind of ugly and cookie-cutter, but I don't know how the residents feel about it. Maybe they enjoy the style).

So I think the main thing is for Nashville's planning boards to calculate where the infrastructure can readily accommodate the added traffic (on the roads, in the schools, etc..) and at what point it needs to spend cash.
ALso, a city and the state needs to be careful about expanding to the point that if there's a downturn they're left with a city of unemployed or underemployed folks. Like when the auto industry moved their production facilities into Mexico, , , (see the movie Roger & Me..) that's really a tough situation . .