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To: grok who wrote (61572)6/12/1999 2:27:00 PM
From: Charles R  Respond to of 1573841
 
KZ,

"I think that the overall sweat ratio has shifted and Intel is sweating more now. However, this may bring out the best in Intel. It will be interesting to observe how they execute under outside pressure after being in command for many years with only inside pressure to drive them. I'm expecting a really powerful battle coming up soon."

I completely agree with the above.

One thing though, Wilamette is not a low hurdle.

So far, PII core was the king and K7 was the contender. Once AMD cleans up the K7 platform issues (aka bugs), K7 is the king and Wilamette is the contender. The day may not be far when people say "If Intel" or "If Wilamette".

Chuck



To: grok who wrote (61572)6/12/1999 2:35:00 PM
From: Steve Porter  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573841
 
KZNerd,

That's exactly what I meant.. anyone can have a good design, but it's the execution that's the important part. Now for some strange reason I can't quite figure I think AMD might actually pull this one off (maybe it's because they just can't screw up anymore). Maybe it's Atiq, maybe it's cause I think Jerry is actually scared of losing his 'baby'. I'm not sure why, but I think they will be successful.

Do I think this spells the end of Intel. Not really. I've been very impressed with Intel's new found interst in the low-end and willingness to compete in a market that Intel initially thought would 'go away very soon'. I think now we may soon have 2 balanced players making for one hell of a market. I think have a strong AMD and a strong Intel is excellent for both since they will be pushing each other so hard there will be no way a start up can compete.

I mean if you think it's incredible that a start-up would go after x86 now, imagine if you have 2 strong players pushing the tech faster and faster. The barriers to entry would just get larger and larger. There is already some evidence of this happening, look at the problems that IDTI and Rise have had. Now Cyrix may be almost gone, but they certainly did better than I think IDT will do in the long run. Rise has good tech so they may be bought before they vanish.

In a nutshell, the best thing for *both* AMD and Intel to do, is slow up on the price cutting, make some money, and grow the market. Then both can be nice and happy. They need to focus on getting the high-end market out of the PA-RISC, MIPS, Alpha camp and into the x86 camp.

Steve



To: grok who wrote (61572)6/12/1999 10:09:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573841
 
KZ,

My reaction to Dirk's presentation was that they did everything right on K7. The best Intel can hope to do in the x86 arena is to achieve parity with Willamette. Coppermine will be left behind in the dust.

Scumbria