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To: AJ Berger who wrote (132564)	6/13/1999 10:11:00 AM
From: AJ Berger	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Opps, just in case I got my math wrong Dell wants $200 for 1x64mb with 1x32mb(96mb total) Street costs $70 for 1x64mb with the 1x32 Dell gives (96mb total) for a savings of $130 if you want (96mb total) you get similar saving if you want (128mb total) Dell adds $300 for 2x64mb chips for (128mb total) Street costs $140 for 2x64mb chips, plus you get to hang on to the 32mb Dell chip you get free, and you still save $160 doing it yourself! Obviously the savings on 96mb is more worth the trouble. If I wanted 128mb I'd probably bite the bullet and just buy DELL, but since most consumers need 64-96mb for Windows'98/2000 this sweet spot is where DELL intentionally ripps you off.

To: AJ Berger who wrote (132564)	6/13/1999 11:11:00 AM
From: Meathead	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 176387

Re: 2 SO DIMM 144 PIN PC100 [64MB] costs only $70 now... Please post the website where you can get 32MB SODIMM's for $35 each. The best prices I see are $55 for 32MB and $75 for 64MB that will work in a Dell notebook. Your logic seems flawed. You claim to have done your homework but obviously have not. First: Assume you can get the "right" SODIMM modules for $35 each... you cant save $130. The 3500 only has 2 SODIMM sockets and comes with a minimum of 32MB. If you buy two modules, what will you do with the third module? Throw it away? The $100 Dell charges is for a single 64MB module, not 2 32MB, this allows you to upgrade to 128MB in the future. So you have 2 choices: 1. Add (1) 32MB with generic SODIMM for an extra $35 and be stuck at 64MB 2. Purchase with 64MB for an extra $100 and have an upgrade path to 128MB Cost delta, $65. Dell's costs for memory are not exorbitant... they are in-line with most on-line sources for reputable manufacturers. There is no "rip-off" as you claim. Sounds like you have a hidden agenda. Second: What type of memory is used in the Inspiron 3500? EDO, BEDO, ECC, parity, 3v, 3.3v etc.? Better be sure to get the right kind. Ever wonder why most memory upgrades advertised by 3d parties are vendor (eg Dell) specific? Third: Although the 3500 does use a 66Mhz memory and FSB, how do you know the system isn't designed to run with PC100 compliant parts? In designing a memory subsystem, there are a variety of tradeoffs that can be made. Faster memory parts spec'd in a slower system allow the designer to reduce costs in other areas: Did you know: 1. EMI can be reduced through heavier termination on signals like address, ras, cas, we and cs. This heavier termination reduces overshoot, ringing and increases flight times. These increased flight times would reduce timing margin with 66Mhz parts whereas the faster TCO's of 100Mhz parts will work fine. 2. Reduced EMI helps speed time to market and reduces the need for excessive chassis shielding. It also helps to gain approval faster for FCC class A/B and international requirements like CISPR. PC100 is not a scam, the chip timings and module layout requirements are tightly controlled. So, make sure you know what you are getting. I'm not saying the Inspiron 3500 requires PC100 compliant parts... I don't know, but if I was planning to upgrade memory myself, I'd surely find out because one oversight and you'll likely flush $50 down the toilet. MEATHEAD